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- Good morning, it's wonderful
to see some familiar faces

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that I haven't seen for a long time

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and people who've been here,

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many Darwin Festivals before
and some not very many at all.

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Good morning and welcome
to the Founders Lecture

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of the 44th Annual Darwin Festival.

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This lecture honors Philip
DePalma and Virginia Keville

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two Salem State professors,

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who 44 years ago imagined a way

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to bring the evolutionary
foundation of modern biology

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to life for their
students in their course,

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Human and Social Biology.

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Our annual Darwin Festival is a model

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for a growing number of
commemorations around the world,

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a testament to their far sightedness

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and their ability to inspire

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their students and their colleagues.

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Sadly, Phil DePalma is no longer with us,

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but we celebrate the continued support

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of Emerita Professor, Virginia Keville,

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who joins us via webinar today.

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Thank you Ginger so much.

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Today it is my deep honor to introduce

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Emeritus Professor Susan Case,

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our Founders Lecture speaker this morning

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and a prime mover in the
evolution of the Darwin Festival

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as a signature event of
Salem State University.

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Then a post-doctoral fellow

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at Harvard's Museum of
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Dr. Case gave a talk at the
1980 inaugural Darwin Festival

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entitled, "Just How
Different We Are From Apes."

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The following year she joined the faculty

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of our biology department,

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gave her second Darwin Festival talk,

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and after Professor
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her awesome organizational abilities

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supported the, yes, awesome,

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supported the growth of
the festival for 19 years

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until Dr. Case's own retirement in 2018.

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I believe she's also the only person

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who has attended all 44 Darwin
Festivals, which is amazing.

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Sponsored by the Salem
State Biology Department

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and the Charles Albert Read Trust,

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I am proud to introduce
my colleague and friend,

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Dr. Susan Case,

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presenting her Founder's Lecture,

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"From So Simple of Beginning,
the Darwin Festival at 44."

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Please join me in welcoming Dr. Case.

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(laughing)

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- Okay, good morning everybody.

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I'm gonna ask my tech
person here to tell me

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how to share slides.

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This is par for the course
for the Darwin Festival.

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So again, this is an oral history of sorts

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based on my experience
with the Darwin Festival.

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I spoke at the first two,

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was on the committee for 18 years.

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I was the coordinator for 19 years

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and now I just get to enjoy them.

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Now, I've listed a lot
of acknowledgements here

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and most of this is to acknowledge

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the people in the Biology
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who have been important in
getting this program put on.

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I've listed department
chairs during that period

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'cause I can't list all the faculty,

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but the faculty and the
staff are important as well.

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The department administrative assistants

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who I've worked with,

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the laboratory technicians over the years

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and I've also listed over the years,

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all of the offices that
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in getting this program put on.

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And I've listed the names of the people

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that I've worked with in particular.

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For this particular talk,

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I'd like to thank Paul Kelly who got me

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the complete listing of
all the speakers since 1980

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'cause I was having trouble
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Susan Edwards at the archives,

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Deb Germano, our administrative,

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current administrative assistant,

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who helped me track down
information about alumni.

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Nelson Scottgale, who helped
me identify some people

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in a picture you will see.

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Ryan Fisher, who has been my liaison

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and treats me like a regular
Darwin Festival speaker.

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You know, if you're using
GPS, put this address in.

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Yeah, I know where the
parking lot is, thank you.

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And Al DeMaria, who has actually got me,

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who introduced me to Phil
DePalma and started all of this,

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that is my tech guy now.

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So here are the founders.

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We have Ginger with her
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who was always helping.

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He loved to be able to pick up speakers

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and drive them to Salem or
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or whatever he said because
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in the car with somebody
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and he had a one-on-one
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And then the late Phil DePalma,

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shown here on Darwin Sandwalk in 1985.

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I'm interweaving some strands.

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The inspiration for all this
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but I'm gonna be making
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particularly about social webs,

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some about the organization and funding

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and how that has changed over the years

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and the evolution of
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which is still evolving
as we can see today.

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But I'm gonna go back even
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We have a little dispute
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and then 1979, because you never know

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where a connection might lead you.

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And particularly for any
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there are people you are meeting
now who someday, you know,

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a year or two from now,
three years from now,

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five years from now,

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that may end up being
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So either 66 or 67, Al, my future husband,

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went with his older cousin
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where Charles had done
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and that was the day
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So we got a little web there.

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Now I'm gonna skip a
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and Al and I go to a
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and that's certainly
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and some other members
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So now we've got a much bigger
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if you've got people who work together

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and they're at a social
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and one of the things
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was this new lab that Ginger
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for an introductory biology
course, what is now Bio 124.

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This would focus on the
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of Charles Darwin and
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by graduate school Darwin
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that Dick Keville had attended

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at the University of
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which he described as
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Well, Ginger and Phil had other ideas

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and they were planning a variety of events

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throughout the week for multiple lecture

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and lab sections of this intro course.

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Phil thought that some
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in graduate school might be interesting

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and so they asked me to speak.

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Okay, so why celebrate Darwin?

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What's the big deal?

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Well, he's mostly known for evolution

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by means of natural selection
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that organisms change over time.

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for at least a hundred years.

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His grandfather, Erasmus
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but Darwin in the "Origin of Species"

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sat down and summarized
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So there's a, if the "Origin of Species"

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has a chapter on geographic distribution,

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there's another chapter on geology

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and another on embryology and so forth.

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But probably more importantly,

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Darwin was the first to provide
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And Darwin read widely.

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He read Thomas Malthus
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an economics essay, and that
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about common observations
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that led him to the mechanism
of natural selection.

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Now why February?

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Well, he was born on February 12th, 1809.

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Yesterday was his birthday.

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It was also Abraham Lincoln's birthday,

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same day and the same year.

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Now this winter is unusual.

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Well, it's been getting unusual.

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Once again, we have no snow
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but the years that we've
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and we've finished the Darwin
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is there some other way we can do this?

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And we would look at other possible dates

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and there aren't too many, there
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He died in the middle of April,

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too close to the end of the semester

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and now we actually also have a week long

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Earth Day celebration so I
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April and Earth Days and
the "Origin of Species"

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was published in November.

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That's too close to Thanksgiving

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and it's also too close to
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So we would go through this

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and then we'd end up back in February.

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Good enough time.

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This was also conceived as
an interdisciplinary program

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and that's because Darwin did so much more

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than the "Origin of Species."

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Now I went to Wikipedia to get a listing

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of all of the, I just
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that Darwin was publishing a major book

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every two to three
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the year before he died

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and they're on a wide variety of topics.

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Yes, we have the, initially
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but there are a couple of
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but there's geology, there's psychology,

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there's all aspects of biology in there.

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And as a trivia tidbit,

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his last publication, published in Nature,

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13 days before he died,

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was about the dispersal
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He credited the observations
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who had also sent him
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and that correspondent was the
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And if you saying that
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that's the grandfather of
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discovered the structure of DNA.

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So two generations removed from Darwin.

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So this is phase one, Ginger's
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at the beginning, to 1999.

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This festival arrived
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It didn't build up from let's
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It arrived as a week.

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And as far as we can tell,
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it was the first such
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International Darwin Day didn't
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So Ginger and Phil's,

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their vision was way ahead of the times.

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Now this is the first festival program

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and it is literally on a piece
of paper this big, right?

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The print is really, really small.

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I don't know if publications did this.

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I had to get out a magnifying
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And this is a photo from
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with Phil and Ginger, I,

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and the President of the
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It was a multidisciplinary program,

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certainly we had a lot
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but we also had history and culture.

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We had two panel discussions.

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I came the last day, but there's
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throughout Salem State.

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We had nine speakers from
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and not just the sciences obviously.

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And we had connections,

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we had speakers that had
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and to some other universities.

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Now my memories of the
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was the last day, I spoke on the last day.

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Again, my talk was about how
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And I look at that title
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I talked about the similarities between us

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biochemically and the
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that we were finding in field studies,

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I probably should have
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It should have been how
similar are we to the apes?

256
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And speaking after me was Lynn Margulis,

257
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and for those of you who
teach or are learning about

258
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the origin of the eukaryotic cell,

259
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she was the one who really brought that

260
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to everybody's attention and
for years talked about that.

261
00:14:42,990 --> 00:14:45,780
And she was also a great
supporter of the festival,

262
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speaking nine times.

263
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After her talk, Phil sent
a student out to get,

264
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you know, buy sandwiches,
bag of chips some tonic,

265
00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,650
and we spent the afternoon
sitting around a table

266
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in the old library, on the
fourth floor of the old library,

267
00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,713
just chatting for a few hours actually.

268
00:15:08,970 --> 00:15:10,710
So these early festivals, and again,

269
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I didn't really get onto
the committee until 1982,

270
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right as I joined.

271
00:15:17,430 --> 00:15:20,343
Initially it was Ginger, Phil, and Dick.

272
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After that, more people were added

273
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as new faculty joined the department.

274
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The department itself was
actually very supportive.

275
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And most of the faculty
actually let their classes,

276
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they didn't meet class during the week

277
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of the Darwin Festival and they
had alternative assignments.

278
00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,170
Now, for anybody here,

279
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the people in the department
already know this,

280
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but if anybody in the
Zoom audience or here,

281
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who's thinking about doing anything,

282
00:15:52,350 --> 00:15:54,870
I got two pieces of advice.

283
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Think about anything under
your control that can go wrong

284
00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,228
and have a backup plan and
keep notes on what you do,

285
00:16:02,228 --> 00:16:05,160
when you did it, and who helped you,

286
00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,020
so that if you'd wanna do it again,

287
00:16:07,020 --> 00:16:08,943
you don't have to reinvent the wheel.

288
00:16:11,370 --> 00:16:14,310
Now, communication, identifying speakers,

289
00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:17,328
nothing has changed, nothing.

290
00:16:17,328 --> 00:16:20,228
We invite people we know,

291
00:16:20,228 --> 00:16:22,492
maybe we went to graduate
school with them,

292
00:16:22,492 --> 00:16:25,710
maybe they were
professional collaborators,

293
00:16:25,710 --> 00:16:28,440
maybe we heard or talked
to them at a meeting.

294
00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,780
Sometimes people from other departments

295
00:16:30,780 --> 00:16:32,910
would make suggestions to us.

296
00:16:32,910 --> 00:16:35,155
Sometimes we'd have a
Darwin Festival speaker

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who came and was so impressed they said,

298
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you know who you need to get,

299
00:16:39,660 --> 00:16:41,760
and they'd give us a name
and we would follow up

300
00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,805
and sure enough, they were great.

301
00:16:44,805 --> 00:16:49,805
Sending invitations
was another difficulty,

302
00:16:50,100 --> 00:16:52,378
well not difficulties,
just very different.

303
00:16:52,378 --> 00:16:56,160
Now, certainly if it was
somebody we didn't know,

304
00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,930
we'd often mail them a letter.

305
00:16:57,930 --> 00:17:01,773
And this is snail mail, you
know, stamps, envelopes,

306
00:17:03,905 --> 00:17:08,905
that still happens, but if
you wanted to call somebody,

307
00:17:09,150 --> 00:17:11,880
some of us were having a
conversation before this,

308
00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,140
in the 1980s, if you wanted
to make a telephone call

309
00:17:16,140 --> 00:17:20,403
off campus, you need to have
permission from the Dean.

310
00:17:21,365 --> 00:17:23,880
And I'm talking, if you
wanted to order lunch,

311
00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,450
you needed permission from
the Dean to call off campus.

312
00:17:27,450 --> 00:17:29,370
So I have a feeling a
lot of these phone calls

313
00:17:29,370 --> 00:17:33,150
happened at home, that
unfortunately has all changed,

314
00:17:33,150 --> 00:17:35,250
and I'm not even gonna begin to understand

315
00:17:35,250 --> 00:17:36,933
the current phone system.

316
00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,603
I'm glad I missed it.

317
00:17:42,870 --> 00:17:44,973
Now, Darwin had a web of contacts.

318
00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:47,760
He was not a great student.

319
00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,740
He tended to go off hunting,

320
00:17:49,740 --> 00:17:51,990
shooting and collecting beetles.

321
00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:53,614
His father despaired,

322
00:17:53,614 --> 00:17:57,064
but he did join student groups,

323
00:17:57,064 --> 00:18:00,570
students who were interested
in natural history.

324
00:18:00,570 --> 00:18:02,280
They'd meet, they'd read papers,

325
00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,591
they'd talk about what they had found

326
00:18:04,591 --> 00:18:07,770
out in their collections.

327
00:18:07,770 --> 00:18:10,560
He did have an undergraduate
research experience

328
00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,040
and he had some, several faculty mentors,

329
00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,120
one of whom John Henslow
recommended Darwin

330
00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:21,000
for an unpaid position on the HMS Beagle.

331
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,620
This is one of those contacts

332
00:18:22,620 --> 00:18:24,510
where you don't know
where it's gonna lead.

333
00:18:24,510 --> 00:18:28,320
His contact with Henslow led
him to getting this position

334
00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,360
on HMS Beagle.

335
00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:31,510
Now he didn't get paid.

336
00:18:32,525 --> 00:18:35,640
What they were looking for

337
00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,090
was someone who could collect specimens

338
00:18:39,090 --> 00:18:40,650
and take notes on natural history,

339
00:18:40,650 --> 00:18:44,520
which Darwin could do very
well and everybody knew that,

340
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,820
but they needed someone
of the right social class

341
00:18:47,820 --> 00:18:52,114
to be a gentleman companion
for Captain Fitzroy

342
00:18:52,114 --> 00:18:57,114
who had concerns because
there was depression,

343
00:18:57,330 --> 00:18:59,970
there was history of
depression in his family.

344
00:18:59,970 --> 00:19:02,670
And he wanted somebody that
who wasn't a crew member

345
00:19:02,670 --> 00:19:04,470
that he could talk to and dine with.

346
00:19:06,060 --> 00:19:11,060
So that experience on the
Beagle changed Darwin's life.

347
00:19:11,487 --> 00:19:16,470
When he came back, he was famous,

348
00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:19,680
because his papers, his
letters back to his friends,

349
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,390
were being read at society,

350
00:19:21,390 --> 00:19:24,885
you know, so scientific society meetings.

351
00:19:24,885 --> 00:19:27,690
And for the rest of his life

352
00:19:27,690 --> 00:19:31,020
he corresponded with
people all over the world.

353
00:19:31,020 --> 00:19:33,480
There's something like 16,000 letters

354
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,413
in the Darwin Correspondence
project in Cambridge.

355
00:19:38,610 --> 00:19:40,560
And his closest scientific colleagues

356
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:45,560
also represent an interdisciplinary
group of scientists.

357
00:19:48,163 --> 00:19:53,163
Lyell, a geologist, Hooker
and Gray, both botanists,

358
00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:56,370
and Huxley, who is an anthropologist

359
00:19:56,370 --> 00:20:00,153
and comparative anatomist
and they'll be back.

360
00:20:01,699 --> 00:20:06,699
Now the biology department
does not do this alone

361
00:20:07,140 --> 00:20:10,170
and it takes a village to do this

362
00:20:10,170 --> 00:20:15,170
and I'm sure Ginger was the
one who organized the village

363
00:20:15,450 --> 00:20:20,450
and got all of our connections
to all these offices.

364
00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:26,127
I've seen, we still have flyers
around or posters around,

365
00:20:26,127 --> 00:20:30,480
the committee gets the schedule together,

366
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,820
reserves the rooms and so forth.

367
00:20:32,820 --> 00:20:37,530
But if you want a professional
looking poster to put up,

368
00:20:37,530 --> 00:20:39,270
you go to the Publications Office,

369
00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:42,900
which is now Marketing
and Creative Services.

370
00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:46,014
They designed the program,
the department approved it,

371
00:20:46,014 --> 00:20:49,710
we sent it to printing,
they would make the copies,

372
00:20:49,710 --> 00:20:52,487
and then originally we
would be sending out mailers

373
00:20:52,487 --> 00:20:57,150
to all of our alumni, to past speakers,

374
00:20:57,150 --> 00:20:59,610
other universities and so forth.

375
00:20:59,610 --> 00:21:00,840
And we, the department,

376
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,650
would post things around
campus and get things,

377
00:21:04,650 --> 00:21:07,050
sent information to other departments

378
00:21:07,050 --> 00:21:09,573
to let people know what was going on.

379
00:21:11,550 --> 00:21:16,293
Now, you're saying what is that building?

380
00:21:18,540 --> 00:21:23,373
That is the old library,
which is gone now.

381
00:21:24,527 --> 00:21:28,350
From 1980 to 2007,

382
00:21:28,350 --> 00:21:30,570
the lectures for the Darwin Festival

383
00:21:30,570 --> 00:21:33,060
were held on the fourth
floor of the library.

384
00:21:33,060 --> 00:21:35,340
The original Charlotte Forten Hall,

385
00:21:35,340 --> 00:21:40,340
which took up a half to two
thirds of the top floor.

386
00:21:41,460 --> 00:21:42,900
Now we reserved the room,

387
00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:45,450
the library staff had to make
sure the room was set up,

388
00:21:45,450 --> 00:21:49,290
the chairs were out, the
podium was there, and so forth.

389
00:21:49,290 --> 00:21:53,940
We had to make sure that
the floor to ceiling drapes

390
00:21:53,940 --> 00:21:56,310
for the windows were shut.

391
00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:59,364
And we taped them shut
because they didn't hold,

392
00:21:59,364 --> 00:22:02,883
they often let too much light leak in.

393
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,487
Media Services who are
still with us today,

394
00:22:08,487 --> 00:22:11,760
now is Information Technology Services,

395
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,920
they set up the microphones in that room,

396
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,480
the various projectors,

397
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,640
they recorded lectures
as they are doing today

398
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,914
and now they're making sure Zoom works

399
00:22:19,914 --> 00:22:23,343
so they are still an
integral part of this.

400
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,310
But the technology for
video, for presentations,

401
00:22:29,310 --> 00:22:31,920
has changed dramatically.

402
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,920
Now this is back in the old
days, overhead projectors,

403
00:22:37,101 --> 00:22:39,360
we had them on carts.

404
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:41,550
You have a clear acetate sheet

405
00:22:41,550 --> 00:22:43,530
and hopefully a washable marker

406
00:22:43,530 --> 00:22:47,130
and if you stand there,
get blinded by the light,

407
00:22:47,130 --> 00:22:49,863
but the image would then
be projected onto a screen.

408
00:22:50,820 --> 00:22:54,690
Most people were using
35 millimeter slides.

409
00:22:54,690 --> 00:22:56,701
So here we have a carousel projector,

410
00:22:56,701 --> 00:23:00,000
a projector with a carousel.

411
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,364
But some of our speakers,

412
00:23:02,364 --> 00:23:05,970
Lynn Margulis had some really,
really, really, really,

413
00:23:05,970 --> 00:23:10,350
old slides needing a
lantern slide projector

414
00:23:10,350 --> 00:23:13,377
which fortunately in
the early years we had.

415
00:23:13,377 --> 00:23:15,570
This is a lantern slide,

416
00:23:15,570 --> 00:23:20,460
if you'll notice that is four
inches long by about three.

417
00:23:20,460 --> 00:23:25,460
It's glass, and this is where we,

418
00:23:25,530 --> 00:23:28,530
you can really troubleshoot
because we would bring

419
00:23:28,530 --> 00:23:31,710
extra markers, extra projector bulbs,

420
00:23:31,710 --> 00:23:33,990
tweezers for those really annoying slides

421
00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:36,780
that got stuck in the projector
and wouldn't come out.

422
00:23:36,780 --> 00:23:39,180
And you know the speaker
was getting really annoyed

423
00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:40,980
'cause we're having trouble.

424
00:23:40,980 --> 00:23:44,314
Now we bring pointers and
computer adapters just in case,

425
00:23:44,314 --> 00:23:48,003
you know, somebody has a Mac
and can't find their connector.

426
00:23:49,475 --> 00:23:51,780
Now attendance was
required so the department

427
00:23:51,780 --> 00:23:54,810
was letting classes out
so students were here

428
00:23:54,810 --> 00:23:57,510
and had to have proof of attendance.

429
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:59,130
And I'm not sure who came up

430
00:23:59,130 --> 00:24:03,810
with the numbered tickets
system, but those tickets,

431
00:24:03,810 --> 00:24:06,570
paper tickets were handed out at the end

432
00:24:06,570 --> 00:24:11,051
and this was coordinated by the
department's lab technicians

433
00:24:11,051 --> 00:24:13,410
for over 30 years.

434
00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:15,960
This was Patty Welch shown here.

435
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,680
The lower pictures are some
of our other lab technicians.

436
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,577
I don't have pictures of
our current lab technicians,

437
00:24:22,577 --> 00:24:25,770
but I understand now,

438
00:24:25,770 --> 00:24:28,548
I know now with Zoom the last two years,

439
00:24:28,548 --> 00:24:31,230
when you register for the webinar,

440
00:24:31,230 --> 00:24:35,730
that automatically gets you
your attendance verification.

441
00:24:35,730 --> 00:24:38,910
And again, I wanna see how
the QR codes are gonna work.

442
00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:43,353
I'm really curious, that's
new, new technology.

443
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:48,333
Another common difficulty, the weather.

444
00:24:49,264 --> 00:24:53,925
Now this is, anybody,

445
00:24:53,925 --> 00:24:56,913
this is what weather
maps used to look like.

446
00:24:58,050 --> 00:25:01,387
This is Harvey Leonard from Channel Five

447
00:25:01,387 --> 00:25:03,930
on one of his first broadcasts.

448
00:25:03,930 --> 00:25:05,670
I don't know if this is the weather map

449
00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:09,125
leading into the Blizzard of '78 or not,

450
00:25:09,125 --> 00:25:11,310
but it reminded me 'cause
they were doing something

451
00:25:11,310 --> 00:25:12,693
on the Channel Five news.

452
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,953
This is what weather forecasting
looked like in those days.

453
00:25:18,597 --> 00:25:22,710
So weather forecasting was
not as good as it is now,

454
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:26,430
we know days in advance
and my phone tells me

455
00:25:26,430 --> 00:25:30,060
that the drizzle is going
to end in 19 minutes.

456
00:25:30,060 --> 00:25:33,420
You know, not 22, not 17, but 19.

457
00:25:33,420 --> 00:25:34,670
I've never tested it but,

458
00:25:36,570 --> 00:25:40,113
and also school closings
were not as timely.

459
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,790
This is not related to
the Darwin Festival,

460
00:25:44,790 --> 00:25:48,931
but my very first semester
here was in the spring of 1982

461
00:25:48,931 --> 00:25:53,820
and I remember a white knuckle
drive up from Somerville

462
00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:56,400
where we were living, in the snowstorm,

463
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,710
and the first thing I did
was go up to Phil's office

464
00:25:58,710 --> 00:26:01,290
and say, can I cancel class?

465
00:26:01,290 --> 00:26:03,360
I don't want anybody driving in this

466
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,250
'cause they hadn't called class yet.

467
00:26:05,250 --> 00:26:09,178
They did shortly thereafter
then I had to drive home again.

468
00:26:09,178 --> 00:26:12,810
Now we are much more
sensible about these things

469
00:26:12,810 --> 00:26:16,890
and often school closures are
announced the night before

470
00:26:16,890 --> 00:26:19,190
if we know things are
going to get really bad.

471
00:26:21,150 --> 00:26:23,610
We also sometimes have people get sick.

472
00:26:23,610 --> 00:26:28,271
And that has happened before,
not very often, fortunately.

473
00:26:28,271 --> 00:26:33,271
And what we did was we had
somebody on standby with a talk.

474
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:36,150
Now I can tell you from
personal experience,

475
00:26:36,150 --> 00:26:38,190
because I was one of those people,

476
00:26:38,190 --> 00:26:41,280
as we're waiting for the speaker to arrive

477
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,630
and we're pacing back and forth,

478
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:44,130
I did lot of that all over the years,

479
00:26:44,130 --> 00:26:45,870
pacing back and forth,
where's the speaker?

480
00:26:45,870 --> 00:26:47,220
Where's the speaker?

481
00:26:47,220 --> 00:26:48,723
Okay Sue, you're on.

482
00:26:50,381 --> 00:26:53,190
Fortunately we also decided later

483
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:56,970
that maybe we should start
using commercial tapes

484
00:26:56,970 --> 00:26:58,920
like Novas and Natures.

485
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,250
And as we recorded more lectures,

486
00:27:02,250 --> 00:27:05,850
we had recordings of past speakers

487
00:27:05,850 --> 00:27:09,850
so we could use that as a
substitute if somebody was ill.

488
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,344
We could just make a
substitution in the room

489
00:27:14,344 --> 00:27:16,113
and substitute that.

490
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,123
There was one year we had
three that we had to deal with.

491
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,220
Okay, first few years.

492
00:27:23,220 --> 00:27:24,750
I don't know how the funding was handled.

493
00:27:24,750 --> 00:27:25,653
Ginger did that.

494
00:27:27,081 --> 00:27:30,570
It was the Biology Department,
the college administration.

495
00:27:30,570 --> 00:27:33,480
I do particularly remember 1989

496
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,857
because the President of
the SGA was Peter Shearstone

497
00:27:36,857 --> 00:27:39,971
and he helped us get a very nice grant

498
00:27:39,971 --> 00:27:43,353
from the Student Government
Association that year.

499
00:27:45,781 --> 00:27:49,290
And we are also deeply
grateful for the support

500
00:27:49,290 --> 00:27:53,760
of the Charles Albert Read
Trust since at least 1997.

501
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,790
I don't have, I've tried to track this

502
00:27:56,790 --> 00:27:58,920
back through past programs that I had,

503
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,873
but they didn't always show that.

504
00:28:02,070 --> 00:28:05,220
This is another one of
these personal connections.

505
00:28:05,220 --> 00:28:07,590
Somebody in Academic Affairs,

506
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:09,711
I think I knew who it
was but I'm not sure,

507
00:28:09,711 --> 00:28:13,770
told Ginger about the
trust which is administered

508
00:28:13,770 --> 00:28:15,621
by the city of Salem.

509
00:28:15,621 --> 00:28:20,621
One of their goals is to
fund free science lectures

510
00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:27,933
and they have been a stalwart
support since at least 1997.

511
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:30,720
John Hayes contacted me over the weekend.

512
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,040
He had a listing of the
Geography Department speakers

513
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,030
that have been sponsored

514
00:28:36,030 --> 00:28:40,380
by the Charles Albert
Read Trust since 2002.

515
00:28:40,380 --> 00:28:44,484
So they also are instrumental
in the interdisciplinary

516
00:28:44,484 --> 00:28:47,283
aspect of this program.

517
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,650
There are of course crises along the way

518
00:28:52,650 --> 00:28:55,234
that you can't prepare for and our first

519
00:28:55,234 --> 00:29:00,234
was losing Phil DePalma who
died suddenly in July of 1993.

520
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:04,097
We hosted a memorial service

521
00:29:04,097 --> 00:29:09,097
at the end of the 1994 festival,
but it was snowing outside.

522
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,040
And my clearest memory of all of that

523
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,240
was President Nancy
Harrington and Ginger Keville

524
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,163
walking off together, looking
out the window at the snow.

525
00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:29,790
And a short time later it
was announced the college

526
00:29:29,790 --> 00:29:34,773
would close at 3:00 PM which
was at the end of the service.

527
00:29:36,420 --> 00:29:40,110
The library graciously
allowed us to stay until five

528
00:29:40,110 --> 00:29:41,970
so that all of the friends and family

529
00:29:41,970 --> 00:29:46,661
and colleagues of Phil
were able to socialize

530
00:29:46,661 --> 00:29:50,550
and remember and share stories of Phil

531
00:29:50,550 --> 00:29:52,350
and there were many stories of Phil.

532
00:29:55,470 --> 00:29:58,468
Now Ginger retired in the spring of 1999,

533
00:29:58,468 --> 00:30:00,363
after the 20th festival.

534
00:30:01,350 --> 00:30:04,440
Program was headlined by
two scientific superstars,

535
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,984
Lynn Margulis and Stephen Jay Gould.

536
00:30:06,984 --> 00:30:08,880
It was over in the theater.

537
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,063
We had standing room only,
we still turn people away.

538
00:30:13,530 --> 00:30:16,290
That was when the festival
webpage was created

539
00:30:16,290 --> 00:30:18,480
by Kurt Keville with the full listing

540
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,671
of the first 20 years of
speakers and that is updated

541
00:30:21,671 --> 00:30:25,560
and it was at that time that
the department established

542
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,460
the Keville-DePalma Darwin
Festival Endowment Fund.

543
00:30:29,460 --> 00:30:32,640
But we had a surprise for Ginger

544
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,413
on the last day of the festival.

545
00:30:35,944 --> 00:30:39,246
We had collected letters
from past speakers,

546
00:30:39,246 --> 00:30:43,470
alumni, current students,
Salem State colleagues,

547
00:30:43,470 --> 00:30:44,850
and we presented her with this

548
00:30:44,850 --> 00:30:46,927
collection of letters entitled,

549
00:30:46,927 --> 00:30:48,393
"My Dear Mrs. Keville.

550
00:30:49,770 --> 00:30:53,430
Included Phil, even though
he was no longer with us,

551
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:55,930
and we channeled our inner Charles Darwin

552
00:30:57,244 --> 00:30:59,437
in this letter that reads,

553
00:30:59,437 --> 00:31:01,470
"I can hear Phil now,

554
00:31:01,470 --> 00:31:04,410
lauding your efforts year after year

555
00:31:04,410 --> 00:31:08,059
as the festival grew
into what it is today.

556
00:31:08,059 --> 00:31:12,120
He would be the first
among us in giving tribute

557
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,743
to everything you have done.

558
00:31:14,610 --> 00:31:18,090
His sentiments on our 10th anniversary

559
00:31:18,090 --> 00:31:21,150
still hold true today and more so.

560
00:31:21,150 --> 00:31:23,096
From so simple a beginning,

561
00:31:23,096 --> 00:31:28,020
endless forms most
beautiful and most wonderful

562
00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:31,770
have been and are being evolved.

563
00:31:31,770 --> 00:31:34,647
Yours very sincerely, Charles Darwin."

564
00:31:35,533 --> 00:31:37,353
She was surprised.

565
00:31:38,970 --> 00:31:39,803
Okay, highlights.

566
00:31:39,803 --> 00:31:43,263
Ugh, okay, I got a whole
list of names there.

567
00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:45,183
Some of these are,

568
00:31:45,183 --> 00:31:48,993
most of these internationally
known scholars.

569
00:31:50,196 --> 00:31:52,770
For those of you who
know history of biology,

570
00:31:52,770 --> 00:31:54,943
you will recognize a lot of these names,

571
00:31:54,943 --> 00:31:56,793
others you may not.

572
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,020
I will note the two at
the bottom of that list,

573
00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:03,480
Charles and Al, are those people

574
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,463
at that very first 1966,
67 beginning for me.

575
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,750
We had our first Nobel Prize laureate,

576
00:32:12,750 --> 00:32:17,400
Carleton Gajdusek, who shared his,

577
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,209
he shared a Nobel Prize for his work

578
00:32:19,209 --> 00:32:22,593
on diseases caused by infectious proteins.

579
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,590
And I'm not quite sure how
our, what our connection was,

580
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:27,240
I think I remember the connection

581
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,800
but I'm not sure about that.

582
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,730
We had three alumni
speakers during this period

583
00:32:32,730 --> 00:32:35,010
and I thank Deb for finding,

584
00:32:35,010 --> 00:32:36,960
sort of confirming what
years they graduated

585
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,730
because I didn't know these people.

586
00:32:38,730 --> 00:32:40,980
It was was a little, a
little before my time.

587
00:32:43,470 --> 00:32:44,893
Donald Johanson,

588
00:32:44,893 --> 00:32:49,620
the co-discoverer of the
fossil known as Lucy,

589
00:32:49,620 --> 00:32:53,283
who is 2.9 to 3.9 million years old.

590
00:32:54,330 --> 00:32:58,710
She represented the first
evidence that we had,

591
00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:02,220
that walking on two legs, walking upright,

592
00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:05,013
long preceded having a big brain.

593
00:33:05,910 --> 00:33:07,569
I'm gonna note parenthetically,

594
00:33:07,569 --> 00:33:10,950
on Saturday on the BBC website

595
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:15,496
there was a report of 2.9
million year old stone tools

596
00:33:15,496 --> 00:33:20,496
with hominid remains from a
genus known as paranthropus,

597
00:33:22,050 --> 00:33:23,973
which is sort of the cousin to Lucy.

598
00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:28,650
But when I emailed Susan Edwards,

599
00:33:28,650 --> 00:33:30,233
I wanted a picture of the library

600
00:33:30,233 --> 00:33:33,480
'cause I knew most people
don't remember that library.

601
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,390
She said, "I found this
picture in the files.

602
00:33:36,390 --> 00:33:39,417
Do you know who these people
are and when it was taken?"

603
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,680
You bet, here we have Phil and
Ginger with Donald Johanson.

604
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,160
And since I have a detailed
schedule, thanks to Paul,

605
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,160
this was taken on February 9th, 1982.

606
00:34:01,020 --> 00:34:04,800
I vaguely remember them being shuffled off

607
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,570
to have their picture taken.

608
00:34:06,570 --> 00:34:09,510
I'm not sure I ever saw this picture,

609
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:11,926
so I don't know if it was
ever published anywhere,

610
00:34:11,926 --> 00:34:15,243
but now it's here and
we can all share in it.

611
00:34:17,700 --> 00:34:18,963
Well, Ginger retired.

612
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,660
I had been working with her
for 18 years on this festival.

613
00:34:24,660 --> 00:34:26,310
I became coordinator.

614
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:28,770
Okay, so the committee gets bigger.

615
00:34:28,770 --> 00:34:29,880
Thanks to Alan Young,

616
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,433
Salem State was granted a service mark

617
00:34:32,433 --> 00:34:34,713
on the name Darwin Festival.

618
00:34:35,820 --> 00:34:38,040
We began using finally, you
know, email had come in.

619
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,500
So we're using email to invite people.

620
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:41,760
That's a lot easier.

621
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,740
I developed some driving directions

622
00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:48,080
because it's still pre
GPS, pre-cellphone, and I,

623
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,246
we would lose speakers who
would turn into South campus

624
00:34:51,246 --> 00:34:53,510
and have no one to talk to

625
00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:56,640
and couldn't figure out where they were.

626
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,390
So I gave them really
detailed driving directions.

627
00:35:00,390 --> 00:35:04,110
And somewhere in this period
people began using PowerPoint

628
00:35:04,110 --> 00:35:08,910
and video projectors for
their video presentations.

629
00:35:08,910 --> 00:35:10,920
We had more sources for funding

630
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,145
because number of
student groups and others

631
00:35:13,145 --> 00:35:17,250
were sponsoring lectures
at the Darwin Festival

632
00:35:17,250 --> 00:35:19,953
and then there were some
sometimes special funding.

633
00:35:21,623 --> 00:35:25,200
But the Darwin Festival
was also instrumental

634
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,290
in bringing Jane Goodall
to the Salem State

635
00:35:28,290 --> 00:35:31,800
Speakers Series in 2002.

636
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,540
And I've got here the people
who were involved in this.

637
00:35:36,540 --> 00:35:40,740
So person number one is actually
not on the faculty at all.

638
00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:44,970
This is Lynn Gale, the
sister of Dr. Gwen Scottgale

639
00:35:44,970 --> 00:35:47,970
and sister-in-law of Dr. Nelson Scottgale.

640
00:35:47,970 --> 00:35:50,460
And she in the past made recommendations

641
00:35:50,460 --> 00:35:53,333
about people who might be
interesting to have speak

642
00:35:53,333 --> 00:35:55,830
and we'd followed up and
they'd been very good.

643
00:35:55,830 --> 00:35:57,630
And she had suggested to them

644
00:35:57,630 --> 00:36:00,903
that maybe we should
think about Jane Goodall.

645
00:36:01,770 --> 00:36:03,330
So Nelson comes down to the office,

646
00:36:03,330 --> 00:36:04,973
I'm person number four there,

647
00:36:04,973 --> 00:36:08,340
I says, "what do you think?"

648
00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:12,870
Well first of all, I say we
can't afford her realistically.

649
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:16,020
He says, "Well what if I
just write and ask, you know,

650
00:36:16,020 --> 00:36:17,670
what their terms would be?"

651
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:20,280
I said, "Okay, worst that can happen

652
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,470
is they're gonna ignore us
and the second worst thing

653
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:24,360
is they're just gonna say no."

654
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,110
But you know, we're just writing a letter.

655
00:36:28,110 --> 00:36:31,560
So he mails off the letter
and we don't hear anything.

656
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,010
But a few weeks later, person number five,

657
00:36:35,010 --> 00:36:37,770
Dean of Arts and Sciences, Anita Shea,

658
00:36:37,770 --> 00:36:39,540
formally of the Biology Department,

659
00:36:39,540 --> 00:36:42,750
comes up to the office
and I don't quite remember

660
00:36:42,750 --> 00:36:44,887
the conversation but it was
something to the effect of,

661
00:36:44,887 --> 00:36:46,633
"Sue, what did you do?"

662
00:36:46,633 --> 00:36:48,157
What do you mean?

663
00:36:48,157 --> 00:36:49,500
"Did you write Jane Goodall?"

664
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:52,350
I said, well, yeah,
Nelson just asked, said,

665
00:36:52,350 --> 00:36:54,870
don't do anything.

666
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:58,593
The Speaker Series is interested,
they'll take it from here.

667
00:37:00,736 --> 00:37:01,686
Okay, fine with me.

668
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:07,790
And so she spoke at Salem
State in March of 2002.

669
00:37:07,830 --> 00:37:09,480
We had the opportunity to meet

670
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,670
and have our picture taken with her.

671
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:14,862
And so the Darwin Festival web,

672
00:37:14,862 --> 00:37:17,160
people one through five are there,

673
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,320
as well as Sharon Garrity
who is the President

674
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:24,063
of the Biological Society
and Dean Shea's son Daniel.

675
00:37:26,610 --> 00:37:31,410
But this was another crisis
we could not plan for.

676
00:37:31,410 --> 00:37:33,360
And this was a campus-wide crisis.

677
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,130
And I'm not gonna go into all the details

678
00:37:35,130 --> 00:37:38,523
'cause this was a major, major crisis.

679
00:37:38,523 --> 00:37:43,200
When we got an emergency
message in November of 2007

680
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,347
from the Executive Vice
President Stan Cahill,

681
00:37:46,347 --> 00:37:48,097
it was like 4:30 and said,

682
00:37:48,097 --> 00:37:50,297
"If you have anything in the library

683
00:37:50,297 --> 00:37:53,460
from faculty offices in
particular, that you need,

684
00:37:53,460 --> 00:37:56,297
it needs to be out by
six o'clock tonight."

685
00:37:56,297 --> 00:38:01,297
Okay, there's a lot there
were lot departments in there.

686
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:05,430
There were academic support programs,

687
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:07,200
there were faculty offices as well as

688
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,797
the books and the journals.

689
00:38:08,797 --> 00:38:11,430
That building never reopened

690
00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:13,597
and it has since been demolished.

691
00:38:13,597 --> 00:38:16,530
You do recognize some of the walkways,

692
00:38:16,530 --> 00:38:18,150
now that staircase is gone,

693
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:20,430
but you can recognize some of the walkways

694
00:38:20,430 --> 00:38:23,553
are still here on the other
side of the learning commons.

695
00:38:25,994 --> 00:38:29,250
Now the Campus Center
here helped us relocate

696
00:38:29,250 --> 00:38:31,503
some of our lectures to Vets Hall.

697
00:38:32,340 --> 00:38:33,510
Some we had to, for that year,

698
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:36,030
had to move into Meyer Hall as well,

699
00:38:36,030 --> 00:38:39,180
but this room in particular
had some advantages.

700
00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:41,273
It seats a larger audience.

701
00:38:41,273 --> 00:38:44,220
Both this room and Slater Lecture Hall

702
00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:49,220
already had built in
video projector systems,

703
00:38:49,650 --> 00:38:52,950
which was a lot easier than
wheeling over a portable one

704
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:55,458
and running the cables and so forth.

705
00:38:55,458 --> 00:38:58,170
And it, we had better light control.

706
00:38:58,170 --> 00:39:00,420
We didn't have to tape any drapes shut.

707
00:39:00,420 --> 00:39:02,403
So we've been very happy here.

708
00:39:04,140 --> 00:39:07,803
Now I've got three parts to
my highlights for this period.

709
00:39:08,820 --> 00:39:11,983
One is Matt Tocheri who
spoke at the festival

710
00:39:11,983 --> 00:39:16,920
about the wrist of a new fossil

711
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,690
that had been nicknamed the hobbit.

712
00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:19,523
It's very short.

713
00:39:21,450 --> 00:39:24,420
And afterwards they were
setting something else up

714
00:39:24,420 --> 00:39:28,350
in this room, we moved across
the hall to a conference room,

715
00:39:28,350 --> 00:39:30,930
and he pulled out his laptop
and showed us this picture.

716
00:39:30,930 --> 00:39:33,030
And I'm sure Dr. Burchsted remembers this.

717
00:39:33,930 --> 00:39:35,820
What you see here on the bottom

718
00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:37,370
is the upper leg of the hobbit,

719
00:39:38,497 --> 00:39:42,030
just above that is the
lower leg, your shin,

720
00:39:42,030 --> 00:39:44,423
and then there are two views of the feet.

721
00:39:44,423 --> 00:39:46,650
And I would just point out to everybody

722
00:39:46,650 --> 00:39:51,650
how big the feet are
relative to the lower leg.

723
00:39:52,110 --> 00:39:54,030
And you can just think about your own foot

724
00:39:54,030 --> 00:39:55,958
and where that would put your,

725
00:39:55,958 --> 00:39:58,443
how big that would make your foot.

726
00:40:00,459 --> 00:40:03,153
So we were all just, this is great.

727
00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:09,330
I think this may have been before,

728
00:40:09,330 --> 00:40:11,580
it'd gotten the nickname
before Lord of the Rings,

729
00:40:11,580 --> 00:40:14,853
but before anybody knew
how big its feet were.

730
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,720
I also do want to bring up Paul Epstein

731
00:40:20,610 --> 00:40:25,230
who spoke both in 1995 and in 2006,

732
00:40:25,230 --> 00:40:28,143
both times on health and climate change.

733
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,230
Now the following year in 2007

734
00:40:31,230 --> 00:40:32,770
there was a Nobel Peace Prize

735
00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:38,233
and that year it went to
former Vice President Al Gore

736
00:40:38,233 --> 00:40:43,043
and the Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change, IPCC,

737
00:40:44,460 --> 00:40:47,370
and we had, see here, Vice President Gore

738
00:40:47,370 --> 00:40:49,413
and the chair of the IPCC.

739
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:53,280
What I did not know until a few years ago,

740
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,920
after I had retired,

741
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,360
that Paul Epstein was
an advisor to the IPCC.

742
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,097
And he was recognized for his work

743
00:41:03,097 --> 00:41:05,370
by the Nobel Prize Committee

744
00:41:05,370 --> 00:41:08,940
for that 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.

745
00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:12,735
Unfortunately, Paul passed away in 2012,

746
00:41:12,735 --> 00:41:16,143
so we no longer benefit from his work.

747
00:41:18,420 --> 00:41:21,710
2009 was a triple anniversary here.

748
00:41:21,710 --> 00:41:24,173
This Vet Hall was full.

749
00:41:24,173 --> 00:41:28,070
I let the biology faculty see
if they can pick out Ginger

750
00:41:28,070 --> 00:41:29,283
in the audience there.

751
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:33,157
And this is Richard Primack,

752
00:41:33,157 --> 00:41:35,023
who is speaking, one of
our speakers that year,

753
00:41:35,023 --> 00:41:38,121
talking about the impact of climate change

754
00:41:38,121 --> 00:41:42,480
on Henry David Thoreau's Concord.

755
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,010
Thoreau kept detailed
natural history records.

756
00:41:47,010 --> 00:41:49,890
When did a specific kind of flower bloom?

757
00:41:49,890 --> 00:41:52,583
When did a migratory bird first show up?

758
00:41:52,583 --> 00:41:57,009
His format apparently is
very much like a spreadsheet

759
00:41:57,009 --> 00:42:00,450
and makes it very easy for
Primack and his students,

760
00:42:00,450 --> 00:42:03,150
they have gone back to Concord, you know,

761
00:42:03,150 --> 00:42:05,910
a hundred years, 120 years later,

762
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:08,896
and are looking at the
effects of climate change on

763
00:42:08,896 --> 00:42:13,053
when flowers bloom, when
migratory species arise.

764
00:42:15,630 --> 00:42:18,300
We also had a dramatic
presentation that year,

765
00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:23,300
for the second time, a play,
it's a two-person play,

766
00:42:23,347 --> 00:42:26,070
"The Sandwalk," which represented

767
00:42:26,070 --> 00:42:28,857
a crisis for Darwin in 1858.

768
00:42:28,857 --> 00:42:33,540
And this crisis is what led
to him finally sitting down

769
00:42:33,540 --> 00:42:36,027
and writing the "Origin of Species."

770
00:42:37,064 --> 00:42:41,460
So in 1858, Alfred Russell
Wallace sent a letter

771
00:42:41,460 --> 00:42:44,117
and a manuscript to Darwin for his comment

772
00:42:44,117 --> 00:42:46,860
and it was on natural selection.

773
00:42:46,860 --> 00:42:50,070
Wallace had basically
came up with the same idea

774
00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:51,790
that Darwin had.

775
00:42:51,790 --> 00:42:55,650
Now, this was the time of
turmoil for the Darwin's.

776
00:42:55,650 --> 00:42:57,600
Three of their children were sick

777
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,400
with three different things.

778
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,780
Their youngest child
died during this period,

779
00:43:02,780 --> 00:43:07,677
but the play focuses on the
turmoil that all of this caused.

780
00:43:07,677 --> 00:43:12,677
And there were two big points of turmoil.

781
00:43:12,890 --> 00:43:16,500
Darwin was wondering if
he was gonna lose priority

782
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,380
for his ideas on natural selection.

783
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:22,140
Now his closest friends knew
what he had been thinking,

784
00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:23,190
maybe not agree with him,

785
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:25,980
but they knew he had written it all down,

786
00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:30,390
a summary in 1842 and put
it away with instructions

787
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:34,204
that it be published only
in the event of his death.

788
00:43:34,204 --> 00:43:36,810
And so a lot of this was because he knew

789
00:43:36,810 --> 00:43:40,980
how much his scientific
ideas upset his wife, Emma,

790
00:43:40,980 --> 00:43:42,183
who was quite religious.

791
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,080
He consulted his closest
scientific colleagues.

792
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,250
They came up with a way
to present Darwin's work

793
00:43:49,250 --> 00:43:52,410
in a short paper, followed
by Wallace's work,

794
00:43:52,410 --> 00:43:57,410
so that both men received public
credit and then they said,

795
00:43:58,170 --> 00:44:01,203
you gotta write the book, which he did.

796
00:44:04,890 --> 00:44:08,820
Then we had 2014 Jeremy DeSilva,

797
00:44:08,820 --> 00:44:11,490
just back from South Africa talking about

798
00:44:11,490 --> 00:44:12,704
Australopithecus sediba.

799
00:44:12,704 --> 00:44:17,704
But at the end he talked about
this Rising Star Cave system

800
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,863
that had just been described
and deep in that cave,

801
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:30,720
in the very, the Dinaledi
chamber of the far,

802
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:35,720
it's, you're right, they
found a whole lot of bones,

803
00:44:35,790 --> 00:44:37,912
almost complete skeletons.

804
00:44:37,912 --> 00:44:39,720
And it's a new species,

805
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:43,500
a small brained homo that
actually a couple years ago

806
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:46,290
was just, at the time they said it's like

807
00:44:46,290 --> 00:44:47,940
a million to 2 million years old.

808
00:44:47,940 --> 00:44:51,810
It's just been redated
to 350,000 years old,

809
00:44:51,810 --> 00:44:55,050
which means human beings,
modern homo sapiens

810
00:44:55,050 --> 00:44:58,113
and these guys were walking
around Africa at the same time.

811
00:44:58,980 --> 00:45:01,651
But this figure also gets
me really claustrophobic

812
00:45:01,651 --> 00:45:04,512
because the narrowest
parts of the climb in

813
00:45:04,512 --> 00:45:06,393
are 10 inches high.

814
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:12,633
So I would just go running,
screaming away, myself.

815
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,083
And then 2017 we had our
third Nobel Prize laureate,

816
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,830
William Campbell, who
shared the 2015 Nobel Prize

817
00:45:25,830 --> 00:45:29,190
in Medicine for the
discovery of ivermectin,

818
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:31,389
which is used to treat river blindness

819
00:45:31,389 --> 00:45:34,650
and is caused by a parasitic worm.

820
00:45:34,650 --> 00:45:36,660
Now this is not him at
the Darwin Festival.

821
00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:38,962
This is him receiving his Nobel Prize.

822
00:45:38,962 --> 00:45:40,489
I don't think we took,

823
00:45:40,489 --> 00:45:43,293
we're not good at taking
pictures for these.

824
00:45:45,690 --> 00:45:50,690
So we get to 2018, Darwin
Festival continues.

825
00:45:52,980 --> 00:45:54,720
Lynn Fletcher and Ryan Fisher

826
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:56,952
are sharing coordinating duties.

827
00:45:56,952 --> 00:46:01,952
It's, you know, 2019 to this year and on.

828
00:46:03,739 --> 00:46:06,540
But when I retired in 2018,

829
00:46:06,540 --> 00:46:10,152
I had been working on the
festival for 37 years.

830
00:46:10,152 --> 00:46:14,283
I admit to not being good at delegating.

831
00:46:15,989 --> 00:46:20,100
If I know something needs to
be done, I tend to just do it.

832
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:22,110
And certainly after 18 years with Ginger,

833
00:46:22,110 --> 00:46:23,880
I had it all in my head.

834
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,670
So, you know, I, yeah, you
know, on a Saturday afternoon,

835
00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:29,370
I know something needs
to be done, I just do it.

836
00:46:29,370 --> 00:46:30,900
But the committee, the
rest of the committee,

837
00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:33,176
were sort of looking like
deer in the headlights.

838
00:46:33,176 --> 00:46:36,963
Like how are we going to do this?

839
00:46:37,830 --> 00:46:40,440
And I took a page from Anita Shea,

840
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,780
who had been chair of
our department and left,

841
00:46:42,780 --> 00:46:45,960
actually she left me
'cause I followed her,

842
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,750
a detailed listing month by month,

843
00:46:48,750 --> 00:46:50,220
things that the chair needs to do.

844
00:46:50,220 --> 00:46:51,630
And there's things that faculty members

845
00:46:51,630 --> 00:46:53,970
wouldn't know about necessarily.

846
00:46:53,970 --> 00:46:55,680
And that was a godsend,

847
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,330
particularly that first
year of being chair,

848
00:46:57,330 --> 00:46:59,430
you're a deer in the headlights.

849
00:46:59,430 --> 00:47:00,840
So to ease the transition,

850
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,128
I left a six-page itemized
timeline and to-do list

851
00:47:04,128 --> 00:47:07,050
with copies of documents
and names of contacts.

852
00:47:07,050 --> 00:47:08,448
This is just page one.

853
00:47:08,448 --> 00:47:12,480
And it proved very useful
because the committee

854
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,214
could sit down and see
what needed to be done

855
00:47:16,214 --> 00:47:19,950
and the things that they
were comfortable doing.

856
00:47:19,950 --> 00:47:21,300
So, you know, it's always easy to say,

857
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:22,530
well I can do this little piece

858
00:47:22,530 --> 00:47:24,570
and I can do that little piece.

859
00:47:24,570 --> 00:47:27,238
I don't know how many people
are on the committee now.

860
00:47:27,238 --> 00:47:28,410
It's somewhere between nine and 12.

861
00:47:28,410 --> 00:47:30,633
It seems to keep,`it changes, that's okay.

862
00:47:32,430 --> 00:47:34,083
Our funding diversified again.

863
00:47:35,370 --> 00:47:37,170
Peter Shearstone, class of '89,

864
00:47:37,170 --> 00:47:41,278
former SGA President is now
at Thermofisher Scientific.

865
00:47:41,278 --> 00:47:45,870
And in spring of 2020 he
contacted the department

866
00:47:45,870 --> 00:47:48,900
about providing support for the festival

867
00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:50,670
and for other things.

868
00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:54,180
He finally got to meet in
person with Ryan Fisher

869
00:47:54,180 --> 00:47:57,243
and some of our students in July of 2021.

870
00:48:00,930 --> 00:48:04,320
But we all know that
there was a crisis coming

871
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,133
and I remember news reports
from late December, 2019.

872
00:48:10,076 --> 00:48:13,620
Just remember the news reports.

873
00:48:13,620 --> 00:48:15,540
And there was a global crisis

874
00:48:15,540 --> 00:48:17,090
that we have all lived through.

875
00:48:18,270 --> 00:48:19,800
And for the Darwin Festival,

876
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,113
we needed to adapt or go extinct.

877
00:48:23,010 --> 00:48:24,710
We, I was retired, what can I say?

878
00:48:25,740 --> 00:48:28,050
But you remember I was
here in February, 2020,

879
00:48:28,050 --> 00:48:30,150
for a regular Darwin Festival.

880
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:34,878
In March, this is the
Thursday, March 12th,

881
00:48:34,878 --> 00:48:38,130
Covid outbreak is now a pandemic.

882
00:48:38,130 --> 00:48:40,740
Next day the headline from
the Globe was "Shut down,"

883
00:48:40,740 --> 00:48:43,110
with a whole listing
of national, you know,

884
00:48:43,110 --> 00:48:45,690
all the sports teams were
shutting down and so forth.

885
00:48:45,690 --> 00:48:48,390
And that Monday, the first
Monday of spring break,

886
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:51,180
Governor Baker shut everything
down in Massachusetts.

887
00:48:51,180 --> 00:48:53,160
I was supposed to come up
and have lunch with friends

888
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,428
on that Monday 'cause it was
the Monday of spring break.

889
00:48:55,428 --> 00:48:57,442
Well, that didn't happen.

890
00:48:57,442 --> 00:49:00,003
It still hasn't happened, right?

891
00:49:01,020 --> 00:49:02,103
We're being cautious.

892
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,960
Okay, well, so the festival had had limits

893
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,428
for its first 41 years.

894
00:49:09,428 --> 00:49:13,304
We had limited funding for
travel expenses, airfares,

895
00:49:13,304 --> 00:49:16,742
a lot of mileage, hotel
expenses and so forth.

896
00:49:16,742 --> 00:49:19,110
And out of state speakers, if, I mean,

897
00:49:19,110 --> 00:49:21,240
if they were coming from New
Hampshire, that was one thing.

898
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:24,870
If you wanted somebody from Wisconsin

899
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:26,850
or somebody from California,

900
00:49:26,850 --> 00:49:29,880
they had to take two to three
days out of their schedule

901
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,820
to fly here, you know,
probably the day before,

902
00:49:32,820 --> 00:49:35,130
give a talk and then fly home.

903
00:49:35,130 --> 00:49:37,253
Then you had to deal
with the weather as well.

904
00:49:38,850 --> 00:49:43,168
We have also always been
free and open to the public,

905
00:49:43,168 --> 00:49:46,892
but people outside Salem
may not have the time

906
00:49:46,892 --> 00:49:49,020
or the means to get here.

907
00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:50,970
This is not an easy place to get to,

908
00:49:50,970 --> 00:49:55,620
even if you're driving and
even people elsewhere on campus

909
00:49:55,620 --> 00:49:57,153
couldn't always get up here.

910
00:49:58,230 --> 00:50:01,440
And a third thing that was
important for the Read Trust,

911
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,870
we had no way to identify people

912
00:50:03,870 --> 00:50:05,520
who were coming from off campus.

913
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,422
They really wanted to know
about community involvement.

914
00:50:08,422 --> 00:50:12,750
We had no way to tell unless
somebody came up to us

915
00:50:12,750 --> 00:50:15,353
and said, you know, we actually did have,

916
00:50:15,353 --> 00:50:19,590
for two years we had two visitors
who had come from Canada.

917
00:50:19,590 --> 00:50:20,423
But you know,

918
00:50:20,423 --> 00:50:22,128
if somebody is coming from a school system

919
00:50:22,128 --> 00:50:25,020
or somebody's just coming
in from another university,

920
00:50:25,020 --> 00:50:26,120
we had no way to know.

921
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,755
Well, you know, if you
have lemons, make lemonade,

922
00:50:31,755 --> 00:50:36,755
and Zoom made the ability to have speakers

923
00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:39,660
from all over the country easier

924
00:50:39,660 --> 00:50:43,773
because it avoided all those
time and travel related issues.

925
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,030
And I looked at the last
four years of speakers

926
00:50:48,030 --> 00:50:50,250
and just where they came from.

927
00:50:50,250 --> 00:50:55,242
So the first two, 19
and 20, are in person.

928
00:50:55,242 --> 00:50:58,020
Most of our speakers
are from Massachusetts

929
00:50:58,020 --> 00:51:00,810
or from neighboring New England states,

930
00:51:00,810 --> 00:51:02,973
a few, a little farther afield.

931
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,680
If you look during the pandemic
when it was all virtual,

932
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,510
We still have Massachusetts speakers

933
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:12,390
and local New England speakers,

934
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:16,470
but most of our speakers are
from much farther afield,

935
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:19,590
coast to coast, international.

936
00:51:19,590 --> 00:51:21,363
So that was a big change.

937
00:51:22,905 --> 00:51:26,220
It also increased our audience,

938
00:51:26,220 --> 00:51:28,820
I thank Ryan Fisher for
getting me this information.

939
00:51:30,330 --> 00:51:32,280
In 21 and 22,

940
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,360
we had participants from
six to nine other countries.

941
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,580
Some of them are our alumni.

942
00:51:38,580 --> 00:51:42,220
We had people from, anywhere
from five to 20 states,

943
00:51:42,220 --> 00:51:45,600
19 to 20 other universities,

944
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,510
nonprofit and government organizations,

945
00:51:48,510 --> 00:51:50,673
tuning into our talks.

946
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,390
And most of the mailings
that we used to do

947
00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:57,270
is now replaced with emails and webpages

948
00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:58,760
that look stuck on, because it was,

949
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,000
it was the last thing I added.

950
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,250
I gotta put it somewhere.

951
00:52:02,700 --> 00:52:05,190
Now, my highlights for
the last three years,

952
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:08,610
we have had more alumni speaking.

953
00:52:08,610 --> 00:52:10,350
And I would point out Webb Camille

954
00:52:10,350 --> 00:52:12,510
is one of our alumni speakers.

955
00:52:12,510 --> 00:52:14,070
He will be speaking this Friday.

956
00:52:14,070 --> 00:52:16,453
So I encourage you all to attend.

957
00:52:16,453 --> 00:52:18,630
But we also had Nina Jablonski

958
00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:22,920
whose work on human skin
color, I've taught for years.

959
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,920
Bonnie Bassler, who we
had invited long time ago,

960
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,630
we never could get the schedule to work.

961
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:33,570
The first year we invited, I
talked to her on the phone.

962
00:52:33,570 --> 00:52:36,329
She was going off for
sabbatical in Australia.

963
00:52:36,329 --> 00:52:38,700
I think the second time
she had just been elected

964
00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:41,433
chair of her department and
I offered her my condolences

965
00:52:41,433 --> 00:52:45,210
because I know how it feels.

966
00:52:45,210 --> 00:52:47,989
And Jim Costa was here for the third time

967
00:52:47,989 --> 00:52:51,930
talking about his book,
"Darwin's Home Experiments,"

968
00:52:51,930 --> 00:52:55,920
things that he did with his
kids and and their friends

969
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,440
and his nieces and his nephews on,

970
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,850
and this experiment,

971
00:52:59,850 --> 00:53:03,353
well because I have a picture
of Emma Darwin's piano here,

972
00:53:03,353 --> 00:53:08,310
but they were wondering
if earthworms could hear.

973
00:53:08,310 --> 00:53:10,900
And so his grandson
played his penny whistle

974
00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:13,017
and the earthworms totally ignored him.

975
00:53:13,017 --> 00:53:16,689
And the son played his
bassoon and he ignored that.

976
00:53:16,689 --> 00:53:20,100
And Emma played the piano and
the earthworms ignored that.

977
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:21,929
Darwin apparently would sneak
in in the middle of the night

978
00:53:21,929 --> 00:53:24,453
and go banging on the piano and they just,

979
00:53:24,453 --> 00:53:28,230
but when they moved the
container of the earthworms

980
00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:30,810
and put it on the piano,

981
00:53:30,810 --> 00:53:34,530
if they started playing,
down into the dirt they went.

982
00:53:34,530 --> 00:53:37,803
So it was the vibrations,
not necessarily the sound.

983
00:53:40,740 --> 00:53:44,433
So the Darwin Festival is one of a kind.

984
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,500
Among our speakers we have
three Nobel Prize laureates,

985
00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:51,600
10 MacArthur Fellows,

986
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,390
five National Medal of Science recipients,

987
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:56,610
and over 80 distinguished authors

988
00:53:56,610 --> 00:53:59,313
and I'm sure I missed a few
in going through the list.

989
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:03,287
Our speakers may be
early in their careers,

990
00:54:03,287 --> 00:54:05,751
they may be well established.

991
00:54:05,751 --> 00:54:09,030
They may highlight new issues
such as climate change.

992
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:12,837
They may be exploring new
solutions to old problems.

993
00:54:12,837 --> 00:54:17,160
And it has also allowed Salem
State faculty and students

994
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,770
a chance to interact and collaborate

995
00:54:19,770 --> 00:54:22,413
with people at other institutions.

996
00:54:23,851 --> 00:54:28,203
In 1996, I told the following story,

997
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:33,300
several years ago I was
attending a national meeting

998
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:34,353
at UC Berkeley.

999
00:54:35,220 --> 00:54:37,890
At lunch, one of the
people I was sitting with

1000
00:54:37,890 --> 00:54:39,701
noticed that I was from Salem State

1001
00:54:39,701 --> 00:54:42,780
and she asked me if we were the ones

1002
00:54:42,780 --> 00:54:46,761
who did that wonderful
Darwin Festival every year.

1003
00:54:46,761 --> 00:54:48,963
Indeed we are.

1004
00:54:50,130 --> 00:54:54,330
So let's see what lies ahead
for the festival in 2023.

1005
00:54:54,330 --> 00:54:55,163
Thank you.

1006
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:07,593
Any questions?

1007
00:55:12,990 --> 00:55:13,983
The battery's dead.

1008
00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:20,310
- I think this one's working.

1009
00:55:22,026 --> 00:55:23,776
- That one's working.

1010
00:55:24,629 --> 00:55:26,931
- [Host] So for the people who are online

1011
00:55:26,931 --> 00:55:27,837
you don't need to do that,

1012
00:55:27,837 --> 00:55:29,550
but for those who are here,

1013
00:55:29,550 --> 00:55:31,710
the QR code is gonna be displayed there.

1014
00:55:31,710 --> 00:55:34,105
We have about hundred people online,

1015
00:55:34,105 --> 00:55:37,410
so if you have questions online

1016
00:55:37,410 --> 00:55:38,910
Ryan's gonna help us with that.

1017
00:55:38,910 --> 00:55:43,066
If you have a question,
I'll bring the mic to you,

1018
00:55:43,066 --> 00:55:45,577
so it will be your chance.

1019
00:55:45,577 --> 00:55:47,790
Thank you so much for this wonderful.

1020
00:55:47,790 --> 00:55:49,465
- Thank you.

1021
00:55:49,465 --> 00:55:50,298
- [Audience Member] I have a question.

1022
00:55:50,298 --> 00:55:51,131
- Yes.

1023
00:56:23,924 --> 00:56:28,924
First of all, Stephen Jay
Gould never let us record,

1024
00:56:29,015 --> 00:56:33,060
that was because of his other
contractual obligations.

1025
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:34,890
And so it was just no,

1026
00:56:34,890 --> 00:56:37,650
we may have recorded him
and then we took the tape

1027
00:56:37,650 --> 00:56:40,428
out of the machine and
we handed it to him.

1028
00:56:40,428 --> 00:56:42,300
I don't actually remember

1029
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:45,093
if we recorded Lynn Margulis or not.

1030
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:50,683
So some of the ones
from 80 to 99, I don't,

1031
00:56:52,213 --> 00:56:54,840
I would have to go back
and see who we recorded

1032
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,193
and who we didn't.

1033
00:56:58,110 --> 00:57:01,663
So I'm not sure that
really helps his question.

1034
00:57:01,663 --> 00:57:03,360
But for some of the more recent ones,

1035
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,680
I can't remember if we were
able to record Campbell,

1036
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,680
but I know we have the, I
know we recorded Andrew Berry.

1037
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,920
I'm pretty sure we probably
recorded Roger Hamlin,

1038
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,250
some of the more recent ones I remember.

1039
00:57:20,250 --> 00:57:22,680
So maybe there should be a contact

1040
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,130
for people who wanna know
who we have recordings of

1041
00:57:26,130 --> 00:57:26,963
and hi Sean.

1042
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:31,620
Right, right.

1043
00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:34,863
I just don't remember who all was there.

1044
00:57:36,030 --> 00:57:36,863
Yes, Paul.

1045
00:57:40,770 --> 00:57:42,420
- You didn't mention my favorite.

1046
00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:46,965
We had a crisis where a
speaker didn't show up

1047
00:57:46,965 --> 00:57:48,926
and I jokingly asked a member the audience

1048
00:57:48,926 --> 00:57:51,759
if he had a talk he could give us.

1049
00:57:54,163 --> 00:57:55,913
We have a microphone.

1050
00:58:04,293 --> 00:58:06,930
- Yes, and for those of
you who are interested,

1051
00:58:06,930 --> 00:58:09,900
that is the Al who got me,

1052
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:12,210
who introduced me to Phil DePalma

1053
00:58:12,210 --> 00:58:14,973
and has been on this journey for 44 years.

1054
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:22,640
He actually also filled in
earlier, much earlier on,

1055
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,930
and this was before Phil passed.

1056
00:58:27,930 --> 00:58:31,890
I have a clear memory of
Phil calling us at dinnertime

1057
00:58:31,890 --> 00:58:34,350
and one of our speakers from
Western Mass had called,

1058
00:58:34,350 --> 00:58:35,790
he had a fever of 103,

1059
00:58:35,790 --> 00:58:37,770
but he was still gonna try and drive in.

1060
00:58:37,770 --> 00:58:39,488
And we said no.

1061
00:58:39,488 --> 00:58:42,180
So Phil and I went back
and forth, you know,

1062
00:58:42,180 --> 00:58:44,790
maybe Tony's friend so and so, and so he,

1063
00:58:44,790 --> 00:58:47,910
we got off the phone, he
was gonna call Ginger,

1064
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:49,926
and Al looks at me and says,

1065
00:58:49,926 --> 00:58:52,920
do you want me to talk about HIV Aids?

1066
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,240
I give this talk all the time.

1067
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,563
I can do it in my sleep.

1068
00:58:57,690 --> 00:58:58,950
Well, can you get off work?

1069
00:58:58,950 --> 00:59:03,663
Yes, so he actually, he has
subbed for us a couple of times.

1070
00:59:06,076 --> 00:59:07,926
And he is here today.

1071
00:59:07,926 --> 00:59:09,783
He's my tech person now.

1072
00:59:20,550 --> 00:59:23,943
Ah, hi Kurt, yes.

1073
00:59:26,130 --> 00:59:26,963
Yeah.

1074
00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:29,783
Yes.

1075
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:41,313
I think we're it.

1076
00:59:42,403 --> 00:59:45,993
There are more individual Darwin Days.

1077
00:59:47,730 --> 00:59:52,730
So the International Darwin Day
is recognizing his birthday,

1078
00:59:53,370 --> 00:59:57,000
but I don't know of anybody
else doing a whole week,

1079
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,430
well maybe someplace in the UK,

1080
00:59:59,430 --> 01:00:01,473
I won't speak internationally, but.

1081
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,010
Yeah and that's actually
one thing that our speakers,

1082
01:00:25,010 --> 01:00:27,660
you know, they, you know, they've
never been to Salem State.

1083
01:00:27,660 --> 01:00:28,493
They don't know.

1084
01:00:29,850 --> 01:00:32,340
And they come in and we have this room,

1085
01:00:32,340 --> 01:00:34,050
you know, often full.

1086
01:00:34,050 --> 01:00:36,152
I know Mondays are different
now at Salem State,

1087
01:00:36,152 --> 01:00:40,675
but it's the Sunday, it's a
Monday after the Super Bowl.

1088
01:00:40,675 --> 01:00:42,750
But they would come in and we, you know,

1089
01:00:42,750 --> 01:00:44,610
we'd have this room pretty much full

1090
01:00:44,610 --> 01:00:46,170
and they would just look and say,

1091
01:00:46,170 --> 01:00:48,780
if we did this at our
college, our university,

1092
01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:51,060
we'd be lucky if we had 20 people.

1093
01:00:51,060 --> 01:00:55,710
So, and they've often been
very enthusiastic about,

1094
01:00:55,710 --> 01:00:58,233
oh, you need to invite so-and-so.

1095
01:01:13,020 --> 01:01:13,853
Yeah.

1096
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,290
Yes, because we often, so
the Geography Department,

1097
01:01:19,290 --> 01:01:22,179
their students would be
coming in for their speakers.

1098
01:01:22,179 --> 01:01:25,050
The Geology Department though,

1099
01:01:25,050 --> 01:01:26,430
their students would be coming in,

1100
01:01:26,430 --> 01:01:29,100
Psychology would have
their students coming in,

1101
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:30,390
Chemistry, Physics Department,

1102
01:01:30,390 --> 01:01:32,010
their students would be coming in.

1103
01:01:32,010 --> 01:01:34,830
So it's actually also more
than just biology students

1104
01:01:34,830 --> 01:01:35,823
who are attending.

1105
01:01:37,456 --> 01:01:40,710
And actually probably the, well,

1106
01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:43,819
aside from Lynn Margulis
and Stephen Jay Gould,

1107
01:01:43,819 --> 01:01:48,819
the talk that really filled
this room to overflowing plus,

1108
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:54,540
was a geography speaker
Jeffrey Bolster I think it was,

1109
01:01:54,540 --> 01:01:57,120
on fishing in the Atlantic,

1110
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,500
which was a fascinating talk about how

1111
01:02:01,740 --> 01:02:06,330
as the technology, fishing
technology improved,

1112
01:02:06,330 --> 01:02:09,900
the amount of cod and
other fishes that we caught

1113
01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:12,783
went up even as
populations were declining.

1114
01:02:14,046 --> 01:02:18,063
And there we were literally
turning people away.

1115
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,197
Bruce Perry was in here and said,

1116
01:02:20,197 --> 01:02:21,870
"You can't have any more people in here.

1117
01:02:21,870 --> 01:02:23,420
The fire marshal's gonna come."

1118
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,200
I think one year we had a
fire alarm too during a talk.

1119
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,963
But, you know, that's par for the course.

1120
01:02:38,550 --> 01:02:39,383
That's okay.

1121
01:03:02,670 --> 01:03:04,380
And actually, I'd like
to add one other thing

1122
01:03:04,380 --> 01:03:07,050
because Charlotte Forten
Hall, the original one,

1123
01:03:07,050 --> 01:03:11,372
which is much larger than the
current one, and this room,

1124
01:03:11,372 --> 01:03:15,100
the audience is on the
same level as the speaker

1125
01:03:16,110 --> 01:03:19,350
and that has always been an advantage.

1126
01:03:19,350 --> 01:03:22,953
If the speaker were up on
a dais, it's a barrier.

1127
01:03:24,104 --> 01:03:28,470
On the same level, people
can come up after the talk,

1128
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:31,020
they can listen to questions and answers.

1129
01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:34,200
They might even dare to get their nerve up

1130
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,690
and actually ask a question themselves.

1131
01:03:36,690 --> 01:03:41,070
But it made the interaction
much easier for everybody.

1132
01:03:41,070 --> 01:03:43,830
And I know some of our
students got invitations

1133
01:03:43,830 --> 01:03:45,810
to go out to visit somebody's lab,

1134
01:03:45,810 --> 01:03:48,540
here there, you know, wherever.

1135
01:03:48,540 --> 01:03:51,843
So that has always fostered
that kind of interaction.

1136
01:03:55,830 --> 01:03:57,243
Oh, if that's it.

1137
01:03:58,305 --> 01:03:59,190
- [Host] Thank you, Sue.

1138
01:03:59,190 --> 01:04:00,190
- You're welcome.

