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- Hello everyone, thank
you for joining us.

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I'm Elizabeth Kenney of CRCA,

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the Center for Research
and Creative Activities.

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And I'm delighted to welcome you

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to the first lecture of the spring 2022,

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contemporary issue series.

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Each year, the contemporary issue series

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presents three lectures that
examine a critical issue

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from different perspectives.

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This year, the theme is climate change.

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The ongoing series is sponsored by CRCA

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and the Berry Library.

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But this year we are particularly honored

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to have the Earth Days planning committee

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join us as co-sponsors.

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That committee has developed a schedule

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of more than 20 events this spring,

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most of which will occur
between April 11 and 15.

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The theme of the Earth
Day's programming this year

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is Climate Crises: Actions
for Just and Livable World.

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After this event,

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we can send an email to
participants that will include

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a link to the full spectrum
of Earth Day activities.

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Tonight, to kick off the
contemporary issues series,

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Dr. John Hayes of the
Salem State University

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Geography and Sustainability Department

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examines the issue of climate
change at local levels

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in his talk: climate action
in climate resiliency planning

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by city, county and regional governments

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to confront and mitigate climate change.

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In the second lecture
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Dr. Noel Healy, Geography and
Sustainability Department,

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expands that lens to
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at the international and
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"Tackling Climate Change
and Inequality Together,

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The Case for a Green New Deal.

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And again, we can send
you links to the events.

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In the final talk on Tuesday, April 19th,

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Terry Gallagher, the Sustainability

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and Environmental Health
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at Salem State will bring the issue home

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to the university level in her talk,

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Addressing Climate Change
on Salem State's Campus

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and Why it Matters.

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All the lectures are
recorded and archived.

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You can see any lecture you
missed by following the link

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that we can send you
in the follow up email.

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There will be a question and answer period

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at the end of this talk tonight,

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you can type in your questions at any time

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that you are inspired
during the presentation,

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by clicking on the Q&A button

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at the bottom of your screen.

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The moderator whom I will
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will ask questions of the speaker

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and may have to combine
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if they repeat similar things.

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We'll be wrapping up at eight
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if we don't get to your
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by clicking on the live transcript button

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Before I introduce our
moderator for this evening,

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we would all like to express
our enthusiastic gratitude

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to Gail Rankin

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for providing technical
support and expertise.

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The 2022 series organizer
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is Professor Stephen Young

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of the Geography and
Sustainability Department.

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Dr. Young is a former
chair of that department.

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His current research
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in New England.

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Recent publications include papers

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on temperature change in New England,

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snow cover change in New
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in climate change adaptation
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Thank you professor Young
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and engaging lecture series.

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- Thank you, Elizabeth,

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I appreciate the kind words
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and I'm also very thankful
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lecture series on and supported it,

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and as you did last year and this year,

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most appreciate that.

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And also I do wanna
thank Gail Rankin as well

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to help us with the
webinar, most appreciated.

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It gives me great pleasure

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to introduce my colleague
and friend Dr. John Hayes.

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Dr. Hayes is an Associate Professor

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in the Geography and
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at Salem state University.

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He teaches a wide range
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natural resources and
environmental courses

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in both our undergraduate
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His current major area of research

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is in climate change planning
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and selected cities in the US.

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Professor Hayes is serving
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as a member of the city of Salem's

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Sustainability, Energy
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which he now chairs.

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He was also appointed by the mayor

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to serve on the city's climate change

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vulnerability and
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And he's been a contributing
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to the joint Salem Beverly
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resilient together.

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Dr. Hayes has served as the vice president

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and president of the New England

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St. Lawrence Valley Geographical Society

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as regional counselor

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on the American Association of Geographers

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governing council,

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and is now serving on the association's

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Climate Action Task Force.

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Dr. Hayes received his PhD
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from UCLA and his BA in geography

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with a math minor from Bowling
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And I wanna add one other thing
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volunteered so much of his time,

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his free time and his expertise

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to the local governments in the region.

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And I'm very excited to hear
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the regional governments play a role

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in combating climate change
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So please, I wish we were
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and I would ask you to warmly

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join me with warmly
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but I'm gonna do it for all of us.

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So, John, thank you very much

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for taking the time to
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- Thank you, Steve.

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Thank you so much for
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and Elizabeth and Gail for your support

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in this effort tonight.

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So hello everybody,

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I'm gonna do a share screen
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and there we go.

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So can everybody see that?

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So welcome, I'm really
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I do climate action
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which is climate change
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and then I'm devoted to the city of Salem

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so it just all kind of comes together,

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and the city benefits
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just wanting to just keep learning

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about how to mitigate climate change.

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So for the students in the audience,

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this could have been
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and I'm probably not gonna finish

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everything I wanted to say,

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but I want you to think about that,

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everything I'm showing you
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a dedicated person, attention to detail,

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and you care about
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and you could be a part of a
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regional planning
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a nonprofit doing climate action planning,

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resiliency planning, adaptation planning,

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and all of this ties into
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So think about that as I talk tonight.

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Here's the website

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for the sustainability energy
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that I chair and our
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we're all volunteers, this
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the chair and the vice
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to prepare for the month.

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So it's a, and of course,
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and we actually have three
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with the city of Salem to
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So I'm gonna give a quick review

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of evidence of climate change.

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you probably see it in your face,

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but I'm just gonna do a rapid fire look.

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We can't do climate action planning

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and then I'm gonna focus on city planning,

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if I have time to show you also

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that it's done by counties

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when I came to Salem
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counties in Massachusetts,
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I'm from Ohio, I went to
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and across our country
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I've been teaching and having a unit on

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climate change science and policy,

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in almost all my classes over the years.

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I would talk about
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if you can reduce
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of the impacts of climate change
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air temperature warming,
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et cetera, et cetera.

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the prevention of climate change

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is totally an historical footnote.

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and it's been here for 20 plus years,

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especially in terms of
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observed evidence 2022 years, especially,

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and so our efforts gotta be to mitigate

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So here's my rapid fire, I'm
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the astounding floods in
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that's hydrologists think
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500 year event,

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or once in a 300 year event,

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rain event that struck
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And climate change
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the role that climate change
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The data about Greenland and
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The accelerated melt is faster
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especially with Greenland.

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that was first carried
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of this weekend,

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about the astounding warming,

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warmth of the Arctic,
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Some of you have probably heard
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the positive feedback,

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maybe we teach our students
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but this was from the CBC,
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And their title here,

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they interviewed scientists
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And this is just a perfect description

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of the importance of permafrost.

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It's the glue that holds the
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And so this is right in our
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Climate change and fire
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to the Tundra and the
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in the pit of Greenland
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the Siberian heat anomaly
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is absolutely astounding
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of four to eight Celsius.

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That's like 15 degrees of Fahrenheit.

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It is for the summer,
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Fires across Australia,

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where I believe there's an assessment

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of about a billion animals
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a couple of years ago.

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And then I'm sure you're
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and the New York Times
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interviewed scientists regarding
the tipping points research

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that's going on.

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And the scientists are
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tipping point threshold of the Amazon

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with heat and drought and
fire and logging, right?

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The fires in California,
we all are familiar with,

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and this is paradise
just the, the 2018 fire

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was the most expensive natural
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and just horrific.

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And then last summer
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the extreme heat that led to mortality,

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excess mortality with the heat wave.

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In a region that has no air conditioning,

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British Columbia, Canada, and Seattle,

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and the Pacific Northwest
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because of the Marine west coast climate.

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And then this is the worry

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for everybody who studies climate change,

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water hydroelectricity, fire,
firefighting in the west

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is just is the mega drought
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15 of the last 20 years.

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So anyways, if you wanna
see it all in one slide,

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there you go from the union
of concerned scientists,

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10 signs of global warming,

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if the students wanna go to that link.

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So what is climate action planning?

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It's to can we, can cities and towns

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contribute to mitigation,
reduce their emissions,

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be efficient with their energy,

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transition from fossil fuels,

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which will be a contribution
to fighting climate change.

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And then cities are, can't
wait to think about adaptation

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so it's gotta be done simultaneously.

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So this is what climate
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it's also assessing your
risk to climate change,

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your vulnerability, your
assets, your city assets,

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your Peabody Essex Museum,

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your sewage treatment
plant, your police station.

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Assessing your resiliency
to climate change.

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Can you build in resiliency
with natural climate solutions?

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As you build in resiliency and do

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adaptation to climate change
and climate action planning,

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you need to incorporate and
think about justice and equity.

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And as you try to decarbonize,

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the goal is to get solar on rooftops,

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solar photovoltaic on rooftops,

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and it should not just
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or middle class that knows
how to pull the wet levers

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of getting grants and bank
loans to utilize mass save.

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So a just transition and
decarbonation strategies

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have to build in equity.

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So all this is happening,

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cities and towns are at the forefront

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and have been for over 20 years.

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So before we take a look
at that, I wanna just,

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we need to talk about greenhouse gases.

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This is from the United
States Inventory in 2019.

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So when you look at the
excess greenhouse gases

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by human actions in the
United States of America,

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80% of it is carbon
dioxide, 10% is methane.

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So carbon oxide is fossil fuel combustion,

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cement manufacturing, some
steel, methane is fracking,

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methane releases,
inadvertent from fracking,

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rice agriculture, animal agriculture,

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our beef and dairy cattle,

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nitrous oxide is also from fossil fuels,

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but also soil management and agriculture.

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And the dilemma of climate change

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is as cities get hotter and hotter,

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the refrigerants are
potent greenhouse gases.

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And so even though the
Montreal protocol was amazing

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for the ozone hole
confronting the ozone hole,

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the air conditioning now does
not deplete the ozone layer,

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but it's a powerful greenhouse gas.

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So here's the pie chart
for the US, United States.

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So there's carbon dioxide,
methane, nitrous oxide,

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and the fluorinated gases.

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And it all has to be tackled
in climate action planning

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by cities and towns.

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So in terms of generation of electricity

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and transportation is the biggest.

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Look at that, transportation,

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then generation of
electricity, then industry,

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then agriculture, then residential,

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commercial, excuse me, then residential.

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So climate action planning
by cities and towns has to,

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has to confront it all in all sectors.

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And if students and the audience
wants to look at at our,

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our emissions and sinks,

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one remarkable source is the EPA, US EPA.

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All right, so what is
a climate action plan?

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ICLEI really contributed to
the city effort in our country,

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as well as internationally
so they still exist.

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They've kind of transitioned
to sustainability planning

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as well as climate action planning

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and so Salem, as you see,
here's some, a list of cities.

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This was about from 15 years
ago and Salem, we were early,

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Cambridge was early, Brookline was early,

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we were leaders in the common wealth to,

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to be a city for climate protection

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and to start to tackle mitigation.

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So here's the five basic steps,

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the city of Salem did become
a city for climate protection

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and geography majors at Salem State,

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under my advisement, working
with the city and SAFE,

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it was a nice tandem began to do

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the first emissions inventory
for the city of Salem.

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It was Ben Walsh,

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Steve Young might remember Ben Walsh,

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geography major back in about 2002,

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began to do this for the city of Salem.

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Then a city sets an emissions target,

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they set a goal and they have
their data from past years

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and they usually was trying
to reduce below a past year

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by a certain year, right?

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So then you develop the local action plan

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to reduce your emissions.

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You implement the plan,
you monitor the results.

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So city of Salem, we've benefited from,

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city of sorry of Cambridge,
Boston, other cities, Brookline,

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and to learn.

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And so my students and the city,

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we benefited from Cambridge
being kind of an early leader

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and with their climate action planning.

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And this is a table of
contents of what a sorry,

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a local action plan climate
protection plan tries to do

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so you do your inventory,

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you set your target,

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and then you strategize with
city staff, a city advisory,

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energy task force, sustainably task force,

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city staff dedicated to the effort,

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the mayor or town manager
dedicated to the effort.

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And you look at your
fossil fuel consumption,

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how to be greener and strategies for that.

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You look at your transportation,

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your fleet of city vehicles, et cetera.

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You look at your land use,

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your urban tree canopy, your management,

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you look at your waste management

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and then you have to devote
staff and budget to implement.

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And that's what climate
action planning is doing.

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It was updated by Cambridge in 2011,

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they did not meet their goal,

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but here's interesting about when they,

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their first climate action plan.

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One of the reasons was they
had in really large scale

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new urban development in
the biotechnology sector,

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investing in Cambridge,

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and there's a big energy footprint

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for the biotechnology sector.

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So they didn't meet their
original goal, and so,

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but they also, it was good,

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there is a climate
perspective to this that,

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that the job growth happened in a less,

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in a more urban area,

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instead of potentially
having a land cover change

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in a more rural area that cut
trees down or used farmland.

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So there is a benefit to that,

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but then as years have gone by,

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the city of Cambridge has
begun to meet their goals

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going into the next decade.

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Cities are going from
climate action planning

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to sustainability, just like Salem

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and resiliency planning.

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so it's kind of an evolution
and some of it simultaneous.

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Boston did it in 2014 and 2019,

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and I have my students look at these,

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these climate action planning.

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And so when I, so the
students in the audience,

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this is city staff that
is tackling this right?

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And so it's, it's in geography,

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we have transportation
geography and planning.

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We have energy and environment,

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we have climate change.

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So, and other departments,

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there's a politics to
climate action planning.

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And so there's many majors
that could contribute to this.

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And the nitty gritty
attention to detail assessment

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of an audit of greenhouse
gas emissions is vital.

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Cities are trying to promote
solar, including Salem,

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including Cambridge and Boston.

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GIS is used for rooftop solar mapping

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for the potential for solar photovoltaic.

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So this is the use of
geographic information systems

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to do rooftop assessment
of solar potential.

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I couldn't show this to you here

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because it's proprietary software,

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that's being used sometimes
by the cities for the mapping.

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And I could not get
access to this for Boston.

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And then Boston leading to
climate change resiliency.

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So I'm gonna describe Salem.

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So we had an amazing governor,

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governor Deval Patrick
and a state legislature

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that in 2008 passed the
Global Warming Solutions Act

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and the Green Communities Act.

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So this was legislation
that provided grants,

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technical assistance to
cities and local support

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with regional coordinators
to stimulate solar in cities,

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decarbonizing and being greener.

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And if you do the work
to be a green community

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like Salem did,

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you then can benefit from funding from,

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and so look at this,

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this is 2018, 14.7 million
to green communities.

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2018, 948,000 to seven,

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14.9 million to green communities.

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Where does this money come from?

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This money came from a very successful

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north in the Northeast RGGI,

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Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative

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that put a, basically a
price on carbon pollution

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from generating electricity
that goes into a fund.

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And then that is
accumulating fund to sorry,

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to then provide funding in Massachusetts

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for green communities.

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So then Salem.

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So what does Salem,

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so Salem became a green community in 2010.

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There's Paul Marquis, our
City of Salem Energy Manager.

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There I am on the renewable
energy task force,

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we are advisory to the city,

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the Salem, the mayor,
and the city council,

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the city council voted
to be a green community

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to provides city staff to support it.

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You all, a lot of you know the mayor,

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mayor Kim Driscoll is
a environmental mayor

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oriented towards environmental protection

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and the local environmental NGO, SAFE.

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So this was a combined effort,

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renewable energy task force, the mayor,

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we advised the mayor and the council

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SAFE, incredible activism by SAFE,

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and the city council voting

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and we became a green community.

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So that was 2010, 2012 and 14, there I am,

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I served on a advisory working group

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with Salem sound coast watches,

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executive director of Barbara Warren,

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and then Julie Knizol
from who lives in Salem

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and is Salem sound sorry,
coastal zone management,

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and then city staff

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to try to do an assessment
of the vulnerability

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to climate change risk

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and to how to begin to plan for adapting.

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So an assessment of the
assets of city of Salem,

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I mentioned that in my opening remarks,

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Peabody Essex museum,
police station, et cetera.

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And then doing real concrete,

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this is very concrete
sea walls, tidal gates,

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storm water system, pump stations,

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transportation network,
power failure backup,

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preparedness for emergency.

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So this is a document that
doesn't go and sit on a shelf.

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It really was concrete assessment.

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And it was with a company

517
00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:28,950
that the city of Salem
contracted to called

518
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:31,110
Camp Dresser & McKee Smith.

519
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:34,290
So CDM is a huge environmental
consulting company,

520
00:29:34,290 --> 00:29:35,660
an engineering company,

521
00:29:35,660 --> 00:29:37,360
but they have an internal subgroup

522
00:29:38,701 --> 00:29:41,350
that does climate action
and vulnerably assessment

523
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:43,340
that was CDM Smith.

524
00:29:43,340 --> 00:29:46,190
And we were one of the first
cities in the Commonwealth

525
00:29:46,190 --> 00:29:48,420
to do a vulnerability assessment,

526
00:29:48,420 --> 00:29:51,560
this came out in December of 2014,

527
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,560
and it was so 2012 to 2014, 2 year effort.

528
00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:02,010
We met in the summer big
tables in a room with staff,

529
00:30:02,010 --> 00:30:06,710
and then met individually, the
working group with CDM Smith

530
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:07,863
during those two years.

531
00:30:10,270 --> 00:30:12,590
So that was 2012 to 14.

532
00:30:12,590 --> 00:30:14,630
In 2016, the city council

533
00:30:15,950 --> 00:30:19,950
adopted a 100% renewable
energy resolution.

534
00:30:19,950 --> 00:30:23,100
It wasn't a binding resolution, but it was

535
00:30:24,980 --> 00:30:29,360
to put at the forefront for
the city council and the city

536
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,150
to decarbonize their energy supply

537
00:30:34,150 --> 00:30:36,500
that runs the municipal
operations of the city.

538
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,693
And I wanted for, because this is,

539
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:42,793
I wanna give a plug here.

540
00:30:44,750 --> 00:30:47,110
We were, so this,

541
00:30:47,110 --> 00:30:52,110
the renewable energy task
force and SAFE and MASSPIRG,

542
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,890
which had interns from Salem State

543
00:30:56,890 --> 00:31:00,533
were instrumental to get
this before the city council.

544
00:31:01,890 --> 00:31:05,240
In fact, MASSPIRG's
interns from Salem Sate

545
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,420
came and presented to the
renewable energy task force.

546
00:31:09,420 --> 00:31:11,980
They did, they were
wonderful presentation,

547
00:31:11,980 --> 00:31:14,060
a couple of them were geography majors.

548
00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:16,523
I think there were some
poli-sci majors maybe,

549
00:31:18,308 --> 00:31:21,470
and they presented to the
renewable energy task force.

550
00:31:21,470 --> 00:31:25,180
And I'm pretty sure they
were at the city council

551
00:31:25,180 --> 00:31:29,310
when they voted on this
renewable energy resolution,

552
00:31:29,310 --> 00:31:31,610
a hundred percent renewable
energy resolution.

553
00:31:32,616 --> 00:31:35,180
So that was 2016.

554
00:31:35,180 --> 00:31:38,610
Then in 2020 and '21,

555
00:31:38,610 --> 00:31:42,450
we did climate action planning
and we did a joint effort.

556
00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:47,030
Tara Gallagher, Salem State's
sustainability coordinator

557
00:31:47,030 --> 00:31:50,030
was on the working group, so was I,

558
00:31:50,030 --> 00:31:52,693
so was one of our geography
majors, Joey Welongovitz.

559
00:31:54,250 --> 00:31:56,520
And I think there were a couple of other

560
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,620
Salem state students.

561
00:31:58,620 --> 00:32:00,280
There were some high school students,

562
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,780
as Resilient Together Ambassadors

563
00:32:07,144 --> 00:32:10,644
and this is all can be as transparency and

564
00:32:13,630 --> 00:32:15,620
to try to show it to the public,

565
00:32:15,620 --> 00:32:19,910
showcase it to the public is a dashboard.

566
00:32:19,910 --> 00:32:22,950
And so you can see the
inventory, you can see

567
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:27,100
the buildings and development
sector, the energy sector,

568
00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:29,860
the infrastructure sector, the mobility,

569
00:32:29,860 --> 00:32:34,860
the natural resources, natural
climate solutions aspect.

570
00:32:34,930 --> 00:32:39,930
Our ecosystems that are
eel grass ecosystems

571
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,890
along our shores,

572
00:32:42,890 --> 00:32:45,853
public health and safety and solid waste.

573
00:32:48,524 --> 00:32:51,540
And lastly, this was last fall,

574
00:32:51,540 --> 00:32:56,390
a special resilient, and
vulnerability assessment

575
00:32:56,390 --> 00:32:58,510
of The Point neighborhood.

576
00:32:58,510 --> 00:33:03,510
It was really well done, it was
last fall, it was bilingual.

577
00:33:03,780 --> 00:33:08,780
And just so the city is trying
to look at this neighborhood,

578
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:12,100
which is environmental
justice neighborhood,

579
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,583
very high surface area
of impervious surface.

580
00:33:18,418 --> 00:33:21,570
And I'm really looking
forward to this going forward

581
00:33:21,570 --> 00:33:23,070
over the next year and a half.

582
00:33:25,930 --> 00:33:30,180
The state we live in a
state has a foresight,

583
00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:34,630
and they did a climate change
adaptation report in 2011,

584
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:36,610
and then updated it in 2018.

585
00:33:39,540 --> 00:33:43,660
This is going on globally so
if we have students that are,

586
00:33:43,660 --> 00:33:48,660
that have, that are willing
to relocate all of the states,

587
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,850
this is happening in cities and towns

588
00:33:51,850 --> 00:33:54,110
and happening in state government.

589
00:33:54,110 --> 00:33:57,633
So climate change planning
in Vermont, Connecticut,

590
00:34:00,150 --> 00:34:02,050
the federal government has a,

591
00:34:02,050 --> 00:34:07,050
FEMA has a separate required
at five year intervals,

592
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,083
hazard mitigation plan.

593
00:34:10,420 --> 00:34:13,770
And the city of Salem did it,
I think about two years ago,

594
00:34:13,770 --> 00:34:15,340
because I'm chair of CERC,

595
00:34:15,340 --> 00:34:18,813
I wrote extensive comments on the update.

596
00:34:23,324 --> 00:34:25,400
So city of Salem did it,

597
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,713
it's also done required
at the state level.

598
00:34:28,860 --> 00:34:33,540
Connecticut here is GIS based
vulnerability assessment

599
00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:37,090
for a variety of natural
hazards in Connecticut.

600
00:34:37,090 --> 00:34:39,483
So this is what's involved.

601
00:34:42,220 --> 00:34:45,960
It's done at the county level,
so not in Massachusetts,

602
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,940
but in other states,

603
00:34:48,940 --> 00:34:51,950
county government does hazard mitigation

604
00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:53,500
and climate action planning.

605
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:55,833
This is Cumberland county, Maine.

606
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,023
This is regional planning,

607
00:35:00,340 --> 00:35:03,410
MAPC hires geographers, hires economists,

608
00:35:03,410 --> 00:35:04,963
hires GIS analysts,

609
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,450
hires people that do environmental policy,

610
00:35:10,450 --> 00:35:13,470
environmental politics,
like from Poli-Sci.

611
00:35:13,470 --> 00:35:18,470
So there's a lot of majors
at Salem state that can be,

612
00:35:18,510 --> 00:35:22,760
can get training and
can participate in this.

613
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,940
So they do mitigation planning,

614
00:35:25,940 --> 00:35:27,233
climate action planning.

615
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,890
And I saw they did a
wonderful regional overview

616
00:35:32,890 --> 00:35:36,483
of equity, so MAPC.

617
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:41,000
And here's county, this is Nevada,

618
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,230
a sustainability and climate action plan.

619
00:35:43,230 --> 00:35:45,020
Here's San Diego.

620
00:35:45,020 --> 00:35:48,803
So these are different climates,
Clark County is a desert.

621
00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:51,550
San Diego is a Mediterranean climate

622
00:35:51,550 --> 00:35:54,470
with a very seasonal rainfall
pattern, which has effects

623
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:59,240
and suffers has a lot
of impacts to El Nino.

624
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:04,060
So it's good for students in our classes

625
00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:08,110
to also see climate action
planning in other environments

626
00:36:09,441 --> 00:36:10,343
in our country.

627
00:36:11,330 --> 00:36:15,020
And then the city of Salem
interacts with Ipswich River,

628
00:36:15,020 --> 00:36:17,870
I'm a member of the Watershed Association,

629
00:36:17,870 --> 00:36:21,313
and they are doing watershed planning,

630
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,863
resiliency planning for the watershed.

631
00:36:29,976 --> 00:36:32,040
So I think I'm gonna end with this.

632
00:36:33,140 --> 00:36:38,140
This is I hope you all
benefited from just seeing,

633
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:42,670
this is just, this is
the way cities and towns

634
00:36:42,670 --> 00:36:46,210
are tackling climate change,
they're in the fight.

635
00:36:46,210 --> 00:36:48,400
We have a, the IPCC says we have

636
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:54,540
about a 15 to 20 year window
where we just have to tackle,

637
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,663
tackle climate change,

638
00:37:00,537 --> 00:37:02,920
and we're tackling urban heat.

639
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,800
And so I think I should end
there so that we have Q&A.

640
00:37:18,860 --> 00:37:21,070
- Thanks, John, for a comprehensive view

641
00:37:21,070 --> 00:37:25,057
of all the different levels of analysis

642
00:37:25,057 --> 00:37:29,590
and climate action plans.

643
00:37:29,590 --> 00:37:33,410
- And I hope the audience
just grasp who does that,

644
00:37:33,410 --> 00:37:37,831
train staff with these
talents and these expertise

645
00:37:37,831 --> 00:37:41,640
and they are working for
the common good, and yeah.

646
00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:45,803
- So we've got a couple
questions here for you.

647
00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:48,740
First one is,

648
00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:51,793
as we switch to electric
powered transportation,

649
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:56,660
aren't we just increasing
greenhouse gas production

650
00:37:56,660 --> 00:37:58,400
to produce the electricity?

651
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,940
Is it really a solution?

652
00:38:00,940 --> 00:38:01,990
- It's a great question.

653
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:05,560
So what this is all based on that we,

654
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,840
that we have to electrify
transportation is the

655
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,250
absolutely needed ramping
up of offshore wind

656
00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:15,240
and onshore wind

657
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,660
mass save and other policies

658
00:38:20,660 --> 00:38:23,463
that stimulate solar on rooftops.

659
00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:30,839
And exciting things are
happening, Steve, with geothermal.

660
00:38:31,230 --> 00:38:33,483
The Berry Library has geothermal,

661
00:38:34,430 --> 00:38:37,690
so it's a totally great question.

662
00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:41,820
And that's what electrifying
transportation is based on.

663
00:38:41,820 --> 00:38:44,730
We've gotta be generating our electricity

664
00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:46,283
from renewable energy.

665
00:38:48,044 --> 00:38:52,750
And so some exciting things are happening

666
00:38:52,750 --> 00:38:55,230
over the next 10 years in wind.

667
00:38:55,230 --> 00:38:59,070
It's so exciting with
offshore of Massachusetts,

668
00:38:59,070 --> 00:39:00,433
New York and New Jersey.

669
00:39:01,490 --> 00:39:03,500
So that's what it's based on.

670
00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:04,860
- Now follow up is,

671
00:39:04,860 --> 00:39:06,570
do you think we could just keep

672
00:39:06,570 --> 00:39:09,790
our car based transportation system

673
00:39:09,790 --> 00:39:11,926
and just have electric cars?

674
00:39:11,926 --> 00:39:16,250
Is that gonna be enough to
transition our transportation

675
00:39:16,250 --> 00:39:20,123
by keeping everybody having
cars and driving electric cars?

676
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,803
- I think it's gonna be
definitely in the medium term.

677
00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:28,210
I guess we would be thinking about

678
00:39:28,210 --> 00:39:31,013
what would replace the
car and that would be,

679
00:39:32,170 --> 00:39:34,930
non fossil fuel based public transit.

680
00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:39,143
But I think American society
just so dependent on a car,

681
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:45,040
can we have non fossil fuel based trains?

682
00:39:45,060 --> 00:39:49,020
We do, but you know that we
fight the trucking lobby,

683
00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:53,217
we fight, and so, so there's

684
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,600
electrified trains and levitated trains

685
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,610
could be a part of it.

686
00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:07,540
It gets controversial
everybody with the corridors,

687
00:40:07,540 --> 00:40:08,870
when you put in new trains,

688
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:13,630
you're going through
farmland, cities and forests.

689
00:40:13,630 --> 00:40:15,200
So that is,

690
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,200
but if we have to think about it,

691
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,870
we need transportation experts, proposing

692
00:40:22,890 --> 00:40:26,973
real intelligent solution to get us there.

693
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:33,600
- Another question is you listed
a lot of adaptation items,

694
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,680
but you didn't really comment
on their effectiveness.

695
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,790
Do you think the city
is moving fast enough

696
00:40:39,790 --> 00:40:42,560
and efforts will be enough
to significantly reduce

697
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,350
the direct impact of climate change

698
00:40:44,350 --> 00:40:46,143
on Salem and its residents?

699
00:40:49,110 --> 00:40:50,340
- What I didn't have,

700
00:40:50,340 --> 00:40:52,640
and I know that professor
Healy will discuss,

701
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:57,640
I agonize and I didn't fit it in was,

702
00:40:57,750 --> 00:41:01,590
I have a wonderful graphic
that came out for the IPCC

703
00:41:01,590 --> 00:41:04,700
sixth assessment that shows the country's

704
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:08,690
contribution to global
greenhouse gas emissions.

705
00:41:08,690 --> 00:41:09,730
Since that's gonna be done

706
00:41:09,730 --> 00:41:12,883
at kind of the national
international scale by Dr. Healy,

707
00:41:14,750 --> 00:41:19,750
but to tackle the global
climate crisis needs

708
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,540
this community of nations,

709
00:41:22,540 --> 00:41:25,860
and we positively need the top 10 emitters

710
00:41:28,693 --> 00:41:32,500
to make this effort has to be massive.

711
00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:37,490
The transition to non fossil
fuels has gotta be massive.

712
00:41:37,490 --> 00:41:40,550
And we have Joe Biden

713
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:42,683
trying to do it with the Congress he has,

714
00:41:45,805 --> 00:41:50,610
and, but it's gotta be
a massive global effort.

715
00:41:52,180 --> 00:41:55,950
And so whoever wrote the,
who said the question,

716
00:41:55,950 --> 00:41:57,863
cities and towns are in the fight,

717
00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:03,750
but man, we need China, India, Brazil,

718
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,330
the European Union, have
all the United States,

719
00:42:07,330 --> 00:42:10,690
have gotta be ramping up this effort.

720
00:42:10,690 --> 00:42:12,970
It's gotta be such a big effort.

721
00:42:12,970 --> 00:42:15,300
And it's gotta be so big Steve

722
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:19,733
to just convert to decarbonize.

723
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:24,030
So, no, it's a global picture

724
00:42:24,030 --> 00:42:27,103
and we need tackling it at all levels.

725
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:30,580
- So John, there's a follow up

726
00:42:30,580 --> 00:42:32,580
on the person who asked the question is,

727
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,440
they're more asking,

728
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,720
not necessarily about the
reduction of emissions,

729
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,900
but more about the adaptation,

730
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:42,440
the specific adaptation
with climate change effects

731
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,660
such as flooding, heat
waves, that kind of stuff

732
00:42:45,660 --> 00:42:50,290
is what's Salem doing gonna
be effective in protecting us

733
00:42:50,290 --> 00:42:52,523
from those impacts?

734
00:42:55,470 --> 00:42:57,100
- In my PowerPoint tonight,

735
00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:00,410
I showed you that Boston Globe title

736
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,673
and the Greenland worry.

737
00:43:07,340 --> 00:43:09,860
I'm a little bit of a pessimist,

738
00:43:09,860 --> 00:43:13,060
I'm very worried about the
accelerated melt of Greenland

739
00:43:13,060 --> 00:43:16,700
and Antarctica that we're
talking about this century,

740
00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:18,283
sea level rise in feet.

741
00:43:20,380 --> 00:43:22,730
And I think we are,

742
00:43:22,730 --> 00:43:25,123
the adaptation planning is gonna be,

743
00:43:26,530 --> 00:43:30,550
so needing to do retreat inland,

744
00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:34,120
we are gonna be elevating and retreating.

745
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,410
We know we're going to lose a coastline

746
00:43:37,410 --> 00:43:39,063
and we have to face that.

747
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:44,700
So adaptation planning is
gonna be elevating structures,

748
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:48,450
but we need to be thinking
about retreating inland.

749
00:43:48,450 --> 00:43:51,643
That's how worried I am
about sea level rise.

750
00:43:55,530 --> 00:43:56,370
Another question is,

751
00:43:56,370 --> 00:43:59,470
for students interested
in a career in this field,

752
00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,510
should they consider graduate school?

753
00:44:01,510 --> 00:44:04,070
And if so, what type of specific programs

754
00:44:04,070 --> 00:44:05,120
should they consider?

755
00:44:05,986 --> 00:44:06,819
- Okay.

756
00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:10,333
I think it's a bit wide ranging.

757
00:44:13,429 --> 00:44:16,107
There are programs like
at Tufts University in

758
00:44:18,203 --> 00:44:22,570
that are in urban resource management.

759
00:44:22,570 --> 00:44:27,570
And some of the first
climate action planners

760
00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:32,940
got their master's degree
from Tufts University.

761
00:44:32,940 --> 00:44:37,940
And they were doing this 15 years ago,

762
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,453
doing urban climate action planning.

763
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,393
And they were some of the early trainers,

764
00:44:46,890 --> 00:44:48,980
offshore wind and onshore wind

765
00:44:48,980 --> 00:44:53,730
requires great analysis of the site.

766
00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:56,330
So geographic information systems

767
00:44:56,330 --> 00:44:59,340
is used in the site
analysis, offshore wind,

768
00:44:59,340 --> 00:45:03,700
and onshore wind, that
offshore wind has to look at

769
00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:07,900
at risk to migrating fish

770
00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:12,120
and coastal fish economy.

771
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,300
So that's ocean ecology,

772
00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:18,140
ocean spatial planning.

773
00:45:18,140 --> 00:45:20,590
So there's just so many avenues.

774
00:45:20,590 --> 00:45:23,893
We need GIS, we need modeling, we need,

775
00:45:25,050 --> 00:45:27,173
and for the parents out there,

776
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,490
we also need electricians,

777
00:45:30,490 --> 00:45:35,460
the offshore wind and onshore
wind needs electricians.

778
00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:37,810
So there's a vocational component

779
00:45:37,810 --> 00:45:39,850
and there's a master's component.

780
00:45:39,850 --> 00:45:43,623
And then, so we need
training at a lot of levels.

781
00:45:46,130 --> 00:45:47,107
- Great, thank you.

782
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,930
So you said for one, at one point,

783
00:45:55,930 --> 00:45:57,630
Salem was kind of at the forefront

784
00:45:59,170 --> 00:46:02,770
what cities in the United
States do you see as

785
00:46:02,770 --> 00:46:04,585
actually being in the forefront of,

786
00:46:04,585 --> 00:46:07,420
like you talked about Boston and Cambridge

787
00:46:07,420 --> 00:46:10,253
creating policy that
other cities can follow?

788
00:46:11,210 --> 00:46:15,893
- So I would say Boston
Mass, Cambridge Mass,

789
00:46:17,870 --> 00:46:22,870
Portland, Oregon, Seattle,
Washington, New York City,

790
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:27,863
Los Angeles,

791
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,310
Burlington, Vermont was a early leader,

792
00:46:35,310 --> 00:46:38,710
and I think they've
made good strides, also,

793
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:42,010
I used to follow them
with my earlier research

794
00:46:42,010 --> 00:46:47,010
because they were a leader
in the new England states.

795
00:46:50,915 --> 00:46:53,730
So those are some that
I've looked at and follow,

796
00:46:53,730 --> 00:46:54,953
look for guidance.

797
00:46:56,590 --> 00:47:00,280
I also, I can remember

798
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,350
being impressed with Madison, Wisconsin,

799
00:47:03,350 --> 00:47:05,900
they have the university
of Wisconsin Madison there

800
00:47:06,888 --> 00:47:10,763
and they had been kind
of an early leader also.

801
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,360
- So let's say for the future,

802
00:47:18,530 --> 00:47:21,260
what do you think are the,

803
00:47:21,260 --> 00:47:23,240
whether Salem's doing it or not,

804
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:26,360
and maybe even expand to
North shore communities,

805
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,080
what do you see as the most important work

806
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,313
that the cities need to
do on the north shore?

807
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,030
- I think it's decarbonizing.

808
00:47:38,030 --> 00:47:40,543
So just getting solar on rooftops,

809
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:49,023
voting to support renewable energy,

810
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,217
activism for renewable energy things.

811
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:58,790
There are homes on the north shore

812
00:47:58,790 --> 00:48:00,820
that right now are geothermal,

813
00:48:00,820 --> 00:48:02,503
so geothermal is happening.

814
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,490
Cities and towns with new
real estate development

815
00:48:06,490 --> 00:48:09,580
can do geothermal microgrids.

816
00:48:09,580 --> 00:48:13,200
And I think that's gonna be
happening across the country

817
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,940
with new real estate development

818
00:48:14,940 --> 00:48:16,973
to do geothermal microgrids,

819
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:23,200
but we've gotta not burn natural
gas or oil for our heating,

820
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:31,490
for our air conditioning,
we've just gotta decarbonize.

821
00:48:31,490 --> 00:48:35,960
- And do you see that kind of wording

822
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,810
put into regulations coming up?

823
00:48:39,810 --> 00:48:41,340
- Well, that's exciting.

824
00:48:41,340 --> 00:48:44,150
Massachusetts passed the recent past,

825
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:46,400
what's called the Climate
Act for Shorthand.

826
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,490
It's called a climate roadmap

827
00:48:49,490 --> 00:48:52,315
for climate policy in the Commonwealth.

828
00:48:52,315 --> 00:48:54,770
And that was also the
legislation that actually

829
00:48:54,770 --> 00:48:56,760
finally formally included

830
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,663
environmental justice
considerations in terms of law.

831
00:49:01,050 --> 00:49:03,380
And what's now before the legislature

832
00:49:05,095 --> 00:49:07,470
is working out the funding.

833
00:49:07,470 --> 00:49:10,860
So the policy goals were
set in the climate roadmap,

834
00:49:10,860 --> 00:49:13,893
which is really leading
legislation for a state.

835
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,900
But now the hard work
is how do you fund it?

836
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:19,973
And that's what's going on now.

837
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:24,683
And we need to have the state
legislature and we need to,

838
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:28,490
and that's what's happening kind of now,

839
00:49:28,490 --> 00:49:32,090
the funding mechanism
for the climate roadmap,

840
00:49:32,090 --> 00:49:34,270
which was really for,

841
00:49:34,270 --> 00:49:36,490
was legislation with foresight,

842
00:49:36,490 --> 00:49:39,873
for mitigating climate
change in the Commonwealth.

843
00:49:43,150 --> 00:49:45,920
- A question about, a
follow up question here.

844
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,870
So you've talked about some cities

845
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:51,050
that are in the forefront
in the United States.

846
00:49:51,050 --> 00:49:54,730
Are you aware of any global
cities outside the United States

847
00:49:54,730 --> 00:49:58,573
that you would see as a leader?

848
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,890
- I have looked at London.

849
00:50:04,890 --> 00:50:06,273
London is,

850
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:13,003
I've considered them at the forefront.

851
00:50:17,250 --> 00:50:19,660
I don't really have a list

852
00:50:19,660 --> 00:50:21,493
that I would recommend right now.

853
00:50:24,810 --> 00:50:27,893
I am very impressed in
the past with Germany,

854
00:50:29,590 --> 00:50:33,240
their federal adoption
and federal stimulation

855
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:36,343
of solar and wind in Germany.

856
00:50:37,550 --> 00:50:39,880
There was a, they had,

857
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,180
I can remember the news
about a couple years ago,

858
00:50:43,180 --> 00:50:48,180
where there was a Saturday
in Germany where the entire,

859
00:50:50,688 --> 00:50:53,723
the electricity was
generated by renewable.

860
00:50:55,180 --> 00:50:58,530
All of the electricity
was generated by renewable

861
00:50:59,490 --> 00:51:02,273
in terms of in the homes and et cetera.

862
00:51:04,830 --> 00:51:09,593
So there are countries
that are confronting it.

863
00:51:10,830 --> 00:51:12,763
And boy in Europe now,

864
00:51:14,270 --> 00:51:19,070
our hearts go out to the
Ukraine and that is just,

865
00:51:19,070 --> 00:51:21,840
and the European Union is, I think,

866
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,660
is gonna be trying their best

867
00:51:23,660 --> 00:51:26,350
to not have any fossil fuel from Russia,

868
00:51:26,350 --> 00:51:28,313
and that's gonna be hardship for them.

869
00:51:29,230 --> 00:51:33,100
But yet the geopolitics
of Russian fossil fuels

870
00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:37,740
is gonna really, it's
gonna be confronted by,

871
00:51:37,740 --> 00:51:40,030
I think, the European union.

872
00:51:40,030 --> 00:51:43,650
And it's gonna be a rough couple of year,

873
00:51:43,650 --> 00:51:44,763
a few years, I think.

874
00:51:46,740 --> 00:51:48,610
- I know that Costa Rica

875
00:51:48,610 --> 00:51:50,360
gets almost all their electricity now

876
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,323
from renewable sources as well.

877
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:54,620
And they claim that

878
00:51:54,620 --> 00:51:57,863
they're kind of like a
Southern country model-

879
00:51:58,859 --> 00:52:00,950
- I totally agree with you,
it just skipped my mind.

880
00:52:00,950 --> 00:52:04,050
Absolutely, Steve, good
job, yes, good job.

881
00:52:04,050 --> 00:52:04,913
- Let's see.

882
00:52:10,270 --> 00:52:13,780
What about like internship
for undergraduate students

883
00:52:13,780 --> 00:52:14,780
and stuff like that?

884
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:18,400
How can they get involved?

885
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,400
- Okay, so see at Salem,
I'm chair of CERC,

886
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,840
we often have a continuing need for one,

887
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,710
and now that the sustainability
office has expanded

888
00:52:31,710 --> 00:52:36,150
and with the neat new project
with The Point neighborhood,

889
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:40,430
so students can contact

890
00:52:40,430 --> 00:52:43,660
they can contact the
sustainability department

891
00:52:43,660 --> 00:52:45,010
at the city of Salem,

892
00:52:45,010 --> 00:52:47,560
but they also can contact me, feel free.

893
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,633
JayHayes@Salemstate.edu.

894
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:53,220
And what the city does look for

895
00:52:53,220 --> 00:52:56,283
is some of your course background
if you are an undergrad.

896
00:52:57,940 --> 00:52:59,760
They would like to see a,

897
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,560
they look at your course background,

898
00:53:02,949 --> 00:53:07,593
and when they get a letter
of reference for you,

899
00:53:08,430 --> 00:53:10,590
they like to see that someone is saying,

900
00:53:10,590 --> 00:53:13,520
this person pays attention to detail

901
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,050
because the work does
require that kind of,

902
00:53:16,050 --> 00:53:19,273
that kind of personality
to pay attention to detail.

903
00:53:20,830 --> 00:53:23,680
- And can they also just,

904
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,760
let's say they live in the city of Lynn,

905
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,233
I mean, colds, are cities?

906
00:53:29,300 --> 00:53:31,663
- So yes, they should contact their,

907
00:53:32,910 --> 00:53:35,110
check out whether the city of Lynn

908
00:53:35,110 --> 00:53:36,420
or Swamp Scott, et cetera,

909
00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:40,280
has some kind of renewable
energy task force

910
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,840
or green energy council.

911
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:48,060
I would, and that would
be a starting point

912
00:53:48,060 --> 00:53:52,660
as then well as does the city
have a sustainability manager?

913
00:53:52,660 --> 00:53:53,810
Or an energy manager.

914
00:53:53,810 --> 00:53:54,860
So those are the two,

915
00:53:55,774 --> 00:53:58,074
in my opinion, those are
the two focus points.

916
00:54:01,691 --> 00:54:04,110
A group equivalent to the
sustainability committee

917
00:54:04,110 --> 00:54:07,830
that I chair and an energy manager

918
00:54:07,830 --> 00:54:10,343
or sustainability manager
for the city or town.

919
00:54:11,950 --> 00:54:13,930
- And I know that actually Salem State has

920
00:54:13,930 --> 00:54:16,320
with the sustainability coordinator

921
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,550
has an internship program

922
00:54:17,550 --> 00:54:19,040
for students of Salem State as well.

923
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,420
- Yes, we do.
- This is kind of nice.

924
00:54:20,420 --> 00:54:21,870
- Oh yeah, oh it is, oh yeah.

925
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,100
- Any last words?

926
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:29,380
'cause we're just about gonna wrap up.

927
00:54:29,380 --> 00:54:30,213
- Okay.

928
00:54:35,650 --> 00:54:37,890
I just think students can,

929
00:54:37,890 --> 00:54:42,390
with a selection of
courses can put together

930
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:45,940
a major and a minor that trains them

931
00:54:45,940 --> 00:54:47,780
and look across geography,

932
00:54:47,780 --> 00:54:51,820
look across Poli-Sci, look
across biology and geology.

933
00:54:51,820 --> 00:54:55,860
You can fashion and you can
make a major and a minor,

934
00:54:55,860 --> 00:54:58,420
a double major, or a major and a minor.

935
00:54:58,420 --> 00:55:02,650
And you can develop a set
of courses that trains you

936
00:55:02,650 --> 00:55:06,120
and prepares you and an internship

937
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,370
really is a nice way to cap it off.

938
00:55:08,370 --> 00:55:10,000
An internship with the city

939
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,923
is a really good way to cap it off.

940
00:55:14,690 --> 00:55:15,780
- All right, thank you.

941
00:55:15,780 --> 00:55:19,940
And I just want to,

942
00:55:19,940 --> 00:55:22,493
I'm gonna share my screen for a second.

943
00:55:23,550 --> 00:55:27,000
And I just wanna remind people that

944
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,803
we have two more talks coming up,

945
00:55:29,650 --> 00:55:32,530
Tuesday, April 5th, Dr. Noel Healy

946
00:55:32,530 --> 00:55:34,460
from the Geography and
Sustainability Department,

947
00:55:34,460 --> 00:55:36,470
and he's also a member

948
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:39,410
of the Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change.

949
00:55:39,410 --> 00:55:41,670
And he's gonna talk about
tackling climate change

950
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:46,240
and inequity together, the
case for a green new deal.

951
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:50,760
And then on Tuesday, April
19th, Ms. Tara Gallagher,

952
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,770
who is this Sustainability
and Safety Coordinator

953
00:55:54,770 --> 00:55:57,120
in the Facilities
Department at Salem State

954
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,660
is gonna talk about
addressing climate change

955
00:55:59,660 --> 00:56:03,210
on Salem state's campus
and why it matters.

956
00:56:03,210 --> 00:56:07,093
And so we've got some great
talks coming up and again,

957
00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:10,530
these talks will be recorded as well

958
00:56:10,530 --> 00:56:15,530
in case you can't join us
for the live presentation.

959
00:56:17,370 --> 00:56:22,370
And so I want to thank
everybody tonight for joining us

960
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,860
and thank you, professor Hayes

961
00:56:24,860 --> 00:56:26,790
for giving us a great lecture.

962
00:56:26,790 --> 00:56:29,840
- Thank you, I enjoyed it.

963
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,040
- Fantastic.

964
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:36,040
And to everybody else who
who made it happen tonight,

965
00:56:36,860 --> 00:56:38,089
thank you so much.

966
00:56:38,089 --> 00:56:41,089
(deep upbeat music)

